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I was trying to figure out why liberals support Palestine over Israel. It doesn't make much sense to support a violent tyrannical theocracy over a liberal democracy, but my best guess is that liberals agree with tyrannical Muslim theocracies that:
Maybe you haven't followed the news lately, there's plenty conservatives that support ending the genocide in Gaza as well. It's not a political fight, it's a humanitarian one.
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1. women should have to be second class citizens and obey men - returning women back to property status is like peak feminism!
I'm guessing you don't know any muslim women.
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2. Killing gays should be normalized - because while they make a handy political prop, why should liberals care if a few get murdered amiright?
Isn't this the same in the bible?
Leviticus 20:13
"If a man practices homosexuality, having sex with another man as with a woman, both men have
committed a detestable act. They must both be put to death, for they are guilty of a capital offense." People who follow scripture letter by letter these days are called fanatics. Vast majority of muslims are not even remotely fanatical.
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3. Religious dictatorship is preferable to secular democracy - turns out liberals are ok with the priest being the dictator who runs the country - as long as that priest isn't of the Christian or Jewish faith.
Just nonsense. But if you look at america, i think only 1 president in recent time has advocated for a third term.
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4. Free speech is bad: liberals keep drifting towards being anti-free speech, so it probably feels good to just embrace a place where talking smack on the governing authorities can straight up get you killed.
Isn't it conservatives that are banning books from libaries and schools in the US. I don't disagree with keeping filth out of the schools but the sword swings both ways.
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5. Child exploitation: normalizing recruitment or the use of children for terrorism because look its just a standard deviation or two from abortion so why not.
Not a muslim value. Sunan Abi Dawud the prophet said" "those who do not show mercy to our young ones and do not realise the right of our elders are not from us"
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6. Honor killings: because when "honor" justifies violence against women for perceived slights how could that be a bad thing? (imagine a women offends you on a train so you just stab her to death and then go about your business - the kind of thing liberals don't seem to mind at all)
No.
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7. Apostasy deserves the death penalty: Religious freedom is a liberal cornerstone, yet cheering for places where leaving Islam can get you killed is totally fine. Because nothing says "live and let live" like "convert or perish."
Yes once a muslim you cannot leave the faith. It's the final religion and in muslim countries it does carry a punishment. In UAE though they removed the death penalty in 2020 and there's been no known prosecutions of the crime.
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8. Corruption and kleptocracy are anti-capitalist: Liberals hate crony capitalism, but they adore wealthy leaders who siphon aid money into Swiss banks while their people suffer. It's redistribution—of wealth to the rich elite!
So does conservatives.
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9. Suppressing women's education advances feminism: backing places where girls' schools are bombed or restricted is ironic genius. Who needs books when they have veils and obedience?
This is just silly. Womens education in the arab world is on the high rise and there's several profilic doctors, lawyers, ceo's and c-suite executives. My wife (a muslim) has 2 mbas and a doctorate. You have absolutely not clue what you're on about.
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10. Terror tactics: killing innocent senior citizens, children, women and raping women are all acceptable - as long as they are expressions of your cause.
This is what israel is doing right now in gaza and west bank.
Raping (yes their prisoners)
Children (yes snipers are targeting them if they cross an imaginary line they put themselves, armed or not)
Parents, grand parents (yes if they are coming for their bodies they get shot too)
They also created a man made famine. Dropped 2000 pound bombs on tents in their own designated safe areas. Burried ambulances after killing everyone to hide their crime. Tripple tapped hospitals to maximize the killing of aid workers and ofc the death toll in gaza alone is now +65000 majority of whom are women and children. Their own leaked inteliigence report suggest that as little as 7700 terrorists have actually been killed making the ratio between combatant and civilian one of the highest in recent time.
I'm sure I've missed some other values that are shared between liberals and Palestine/Muslim theocracy, so please feel free to add your own to the list![/QUOTE]
You're completely off the rocks mate. I'm conservative myself but there's no need to make up such silly comparison for the purpose of adding to the division. We're all human.