Heres a bbc hit piece on par with the kind of shitflinging I'd expect from motherjones or the young turks

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cm2zy4l8jgeo

They doxx and smear a bunch of members of GHF solely based on their membership in a motorcycle club, without alleging any wrongdoing or racism by the actual members of GHF. It goes like this:

>Some members of GHF were recruited from former military people, some of whom are members of the Infidels Bikers club
>Examples of edgy or racist posts by OTHER members of the club
>No examples of any crimes or violence by these guys
>Cites motherfucking CAIR, a hate group that praised the October 7th attacks

Its like the kind of hack articles the US media runs to smear Trump. The BBC gave up on ordinary biased selective reporting of the gaza war and decided to go full yellow journalism and make up storylines.

If someone is a former marine, honorably discharged, becomes a dental hygenist and rides with other boomers in motorcycle club and takes a job doing humanitarian aid distribution, is that somehow a horrible unthinkable crime that needs to be compared to the KKK lynching people? Holy shit its BIKERS OH MY GOD HES GOT A HARLEY REEEEE

And publicly posting the names and personal details of private citizens who have done nothing but humanitarian work, jesus christ imagine being a brit who has to pay for this filth by loicensing

This post was edited by Goomshill on Sep 10 2025 03:55am

I really dont mind these responses, its good to have contrasting views when discussing this topic.

You're making my point for me, thanks.
This is not a fight between your right to exist against theirs. It's a one sided conflict and israel has occupied and controlled the other side for more than 50 years. They don't like you. Well dropping 2000 pound bombs on tents in Israeli designated safe zones. Murdering journalists and aid workers and trying to cover it up by burrying the evidence. Tripple tapping hospitals to kills as many aid workers as possible. Creating a man made famine. Targeting children with snipers. Targeting civilians with snipers.
It's not your children vs theirs. I can see how they can see it from that point of view, but an israeli super power with nukes, the most advanced military in the world with the most powerful army in the world behind them. Noone is doubting the survival of israel. Stop playing victim and start making peace.

You have no idea what youre talking about

Your own words.

This is exactly what it is. That’s the whole point.
I wrote before that I’ll address what you wrote about your vision of radical free peace in the region -
A. You blame the current Israel GOV. I didn’t vote for them and dislike them as well but they are not the core problem. The conflict is here for over 70 years..
B. Core problem was and always will be the Palestinian refusal to acknowledge defeat and to acknowledge the Jewish state. We know that because they are very persistent with their demands , in short -
- a Palestinian state
- right of return to the refugees

I hope that it’s well establish that this “right of return” BS means the end of Israel as it is, right ?

Because of the above, the conflict will never end. That’s my claim and that’s what I’m trying to pass through 15XX pages here.
Of course we are not justifying killing of children.. no one wants to see dead children.
We Israelis, unlike the western world apparently, we acknowledge that the current collective which leads the Palestinians IS the problem and hence needs to be gone. Either by force or by some sort of internal ideology change inside Palestinian society.
Until then the plan will be to survive here and fight when needed, given the above I don’t see any action Israel can do to achieve peace.

Regarding the settlements in the West Bank - myself, and I think many_names also (not sure though) not supporting this actions.
Is Israel wrong here ? IMO yes.
Does it changes the outcome for peace ? Absolutely not.
Does the West Bank and Gaza can be like a state and have a complete freedom ? Absolutely not. If we do that we’ll have Iran on our fences. Oct 7 will look like a joke.

Hope that summarise my POV.

You have your views and i respect you, however in this thread there are users that DO want to see dead children, and across all platforms there are Israeli's calling, chanting,singing for extermination. These are not 1 or 2 people.

meanwhile we have Netanyahu saying :

Netanyahu says Qatar must expel Hamas members, threatens further strikes “I say to Qatar and all nations who harbour terrorists, you either expel them or you bring them to justice. Because if you don’t, we will,” Netanyahu said.

Netanyahu is escalating and while its unlikely that "something" will happen, the door of uncertainty is being opened.

This post was edited by ferdia on Sep 10 2025 11:49am

The problem is, my friend, that whether you want to see them dead or not, it is unavoidable when you literally bomb a concentration camp called Gaza, accuse reporters of having ties to terrorists, and at the very same time also carry out drone strikes against those whom you cannot accuse of bias.

Israel, who harbor pedophile criminals, telling others who they can and cant harbor. top kek.

Steady on Snipa, other countries don't count. didnt you know?



Israeli' podcast stating Trump distancing is staged, with the US and Israel doing this hand in hand.

This post was edited by ferdia on Sep 10 2025 12:36pm