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The maximum damage calculations:

297% ed + 110% demons = 407% ed

407% ed times 179 base = 907 damage

907 damage multiplied by 7.64 (fort + might aura + 120/45 helm + strength) = 6933

6933 times 2 for crit from Lo rune and times 2 for amp = 27,734

Jab is 2 hits so times 2 again = 55,468 max damage possible jab

Thats maximum possible merc damage it can do by itself un-assisted





The minimum damage is

52 damage base times 407% = 263 damage
Multilplied by 7.64 = 2009
times 2 for jab two hits = 4018






TOTAL DAMAGE JAB MERC UN-ASSISTED = 4018 - 55,468 actual damage

In my opinion, definately a trophy item on d2r, idc that its only 20% ias, its in a fast base to begin with

This thing hits harder than ebotd, and is in a base that cant make ebotd

Feel free to rate <3

Lo rune ftw


this would need 40% ias and / or 2 sockets to be a real trophy
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the irony is that the term "cruel" wasn't a new thing created by 1.14 spawns, it goes back to 1.09 patch where cruel weps were often used with 3x jewels to get well over the base 300 ed. afterwhich fools + cruels weapons joined the meta, and were called "fools" to set them apart.

greater than 300 ed rare weps are "cruels", up to 300 ed w/ fools mod are "fools". and always have been since 1.10.


I just want to acknowledge that I read this and appreciate your service.

I actually found a Cruel BB of evisceration(random on both affixes) in my first play through of d2r and honestly felt like I was in my 20’s again(I was already old when I started playing d2)

This post was edited by chickypoo on Aug 29 2025 07:57pm
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the irony is that the term "cruel" wasn't a new thing created by 1.14 spawns, it goes back to 1.09 patch where cruel weps were often used with 3x jewels to get well over the base 300 ed. afterwhich fools + cruels weapons joined the meta, and were called "fools" to set them apart.

greater than 300 ed rare weps are "cruels", up to 300 ed w/ fools mod are "fools". and always have been since 1.10.


I'm well aware. I've stated basically the same exact info.

I used to use the 2 person rollback method to re-roll CCB's to get CCBOA/CCBOS/CCBOE/CCBOQ's and whatever in between with my friends from school after the rollback became public on blizzhackers early in 1.09.

This doesn't change the fact that the mislabeling of cruel + masters as simply "cruels" and fools + cruel items being labeled as just "fools" is something that started happening probably around 1.12 or so after a good amount of those combinations of rare items had been found.

Before 1.10 the "Cruel" modifier could only spawn on magic items. So many people didn't even know that rares could spawn with it plus an additional ED mod until well past the 1.10 early days and even into 1.12 or so.

Many people were still not realizing how important AR had become because everyone was still under the assumption that defense was an afterthought due to the 'eth' bug or any -%def bug that persisted until 1.10 - which made defense and AR an afterthought, and is why everyone used a 'Lo' + 'Eth' rune in their 2 socket cruel weapons or 'Eth' + 2x Lo or 40/15's in 1.09 melee.


None of this changes the fact that these people are retarded, stupid, and incorrect in their labeling of these rare items.

Period, honestly. End of discussion. There is nothing more that need be said.
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I'm well aware. I've stated basically the same exact info.

I used to use the 2 person rollback method to re-roll CCB's to get CCBOA/CCBOS/CCBOE/CCBOQ's and whatever in between with my friends from school after the rollback became public on blizzhackers early in 1.09.

This doesn't change the fact that the mislabeling of cruel + masters as simply "cruels" and fools + cruel items being labeled as just "fools" is something that started happening probably around 1.12 or so after a good amount of those combinations of rare items had been found.

Before 1.10 the "Cruel" modifier could only spawn on magic items. So many people didn't even know that rares could spawn with it plus an additional ED mod until well past the 1.10 early days and even into 1.12 or so.

Many people were still not realizing how important AR had become because everyone was still under the assumption that defense was an afterthought due to the 'eth' bug or any -%def bug that persisted until 1.10 - which made defense and AR an afterthought, and is why everyone used a 'Lo' + 'Eth' rune in their 2 socket cruel weapons or 'Eth' + 2x Lo or 40/15's in 1.09 melee.


None of this changes the fact that these people are retarded, stupid, and incorrect in their labeling of these rare items.

Period, honestly. End of discussion. There is nothing more that need be said.


its not just cruel + masters, it could be cruel + any ed/ar mod. anything over 300.

but since you're so smart why dont you invent a new term for any rare weapon with 301%+ ed and we can all start using that one instead.
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This post was edited by socun89 on Sep 2 2025 10:10am
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its not just cruel + masters, it could be cruel + any ed/ar mod. anything over 300.

but since you're so smart why dont you invent a new term for any rare weapon with 301%+ ed and we can all start using that one instead.


If the item being posted isn't at least cruel + master's then there's no reason to post it in the trophy room.

But with how stupid some of you are these days I'd imagine someone would think a 310% ED rare would be trophy worthy.
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