to be very clear to you now:

YES -

it does seem strange to me yes, which is why I am in a wait and see mindset. This is also why I am quite muted. I am reading the claims from multiple, credible, sources, while also looking at Israels claims carefully. I am keeping an open mind. I acknowledge that the IDF seems to have designated journalists as legitimate targets. I acknowledge the comments made over the last two years by the hard line government i.e. starve them all, no food no water. AND i acknowledge that there are not many pictures coming out, to fully support the claims being made.

If there is starvation, nothing currently being done will prevent it (as nothing is really being done). so the best judge, is time. ergo ill wait. but i will continue to post and repeat what Israel spokesmen have always been saying - starve them all.

1. Israeli Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich made a highly controversial statement in August 2024, suggesting that it might be "justified and moral" to allow up to two million Palestinians in Gaza to starve to death as a means to pressure Hamas into releasing the 20 Israeli hostages remaining alive.
2. Israel's Heritage Minister, has made inflammatory remarks about Gaza's future, including a statement that "all Gaza will be Jewish," which has been widely condemned as incitement to ethnic cleansing.
3. In August 2025, Defense Minister Israel Katz warned that Gaza City could face complete destruction unless Hamas yields to Israel's terms. Hamas condemned his remarks as a confession of committing a crime amounting to genocide.

I mean, every month there are quotes like this, by Israels leaders. If thats the word from the top down, then it leads to mass starvation, ergo its more credible to me that there is in fact, starvation.

This post was edited by ferdia on Aug 31 2025 11:38am

(Zech. 12:11.) “At the very moment of the Second Coming of our Lord, 'all nations' shall be gathered 'against Jerusalem to battle' (Zech. 11; 12; 13; 14), and the battle of Armageddon (obviously covering the entire area from Jerusalem to Megiddo, and perhaps more) will be in progress.

Thus all the Christian nations must unite and destroy Israel and those unbelievers who disagree go straight to hell, according to the Holy Bible?

This post was edited by Norlander on Aug 31 2025 12:11pm

Posts - 9, here we go again.

This post was edited by ferdia on Aug 31 2025 12:09pm

Pretty confident that Israel will pay for everything, blood for blood it seems is the only reasonable way. One day all Arab Nations will unite against their enemy and will strike at maximum power.

Quite a specific topic for a specific subforum, especially for someone who just joined today. Mask, do I know you?

So, how does all of that sits with your previous post about dead Palestinians because of “starvation”? Please be more careful while
Posting “facts”.
I hope I won’t be sorry for writing this but -
You do know that in the Gulf war , US was accused of causing famine in Iraq. UN reports, Secretary of State apologising on TV and guess what, years later when data about Iraqi deaths been checked - no substantial rise in deaths. No famine. Surprise.


Those Israeli ministers need to be put to jail. They represent a small fraction of Israeli public. Non the less, you are correct in your view regarding them.
As to “from the top down” doctrine , every Israeli commenting here has served or currently serving via reserve duty in the IDF. I know my army, i know who leads it and what’s the orders. No comment by a minister, UN report or New York’s times article is going to convince me otherwise. Does that means that no war crimes are committed ? No. Does that means that all units are following same principles ? Yes. In general. There are always exceptions.

This post was edited by WhiteSouned on Aug 31 2025 12:58pm

Can someone explain how does a state manage to sustain 3% pop growth during genocide/famine?

ill tone done my famine comments until further evidence is provided, but there is video claims as at 5:15 in the video i posted earlier. i accept it can be suggested this is video from sudan or god knows where, ergo its not clear.

This post was edited by ferdia on Aug 31 2025 05:29pm

bless