Quote (SBD @ Sep 1 2025 06:19pm)

This does not address the point that you're more likely to get killed or get your own family killed. We can create silly fringe scenarios to make many things the public shouldn't have warranted. And to reference old times like times have not changed significantly is also pretty silly to be honest.
Fact is there's just no real logic to it. You have to simply jump through some wild hoops to just to justify it and anyone who's ever moderate can understand it truly just makes no sense to have certain firearms legal or have ultra lax carry laws.

Quote (Goomshill @ Sep 1 2025 05:25pm)

I've got stuff in my kitchen cabinets older than the last time civil order broke down and angry mobs were torching buildings.
Like I said between indians, bleeding kansas and race riots, its been a pretty regular occurrence in US history.
Contriving a scenario where we don't face tumult in our lifetimes is the unrealistic fringe scenario. Like it or not, everyone alive today was already hit with that ancient chinese curse.

Quote (SBD @ Sep 1 2025 06:19pm)

This does not address the point that you're more likely to get killed or get your own family killed. We can create silly fringe scenarios to make many things the public shouldn't have warranted. And to reference old times like times have not changed significantly is also pretty silly to be honest.

Fact is there's just no real logic to it. You have to simply jump through some wild hoops to just to justify it and anyone who's ever moderate can understand it truly just makes no sense to have certain firearms legal or have ultra lax carry laws.

And I do feel bad for people that they have been managed to be convinced their own country is such a third world dump that they need to strap up on a daily basis. I couldn't personally imagine living with that level of paranoia.

Quote (SBD @ Sep 1 2025 04:33pm)

Oh no. Now we're devolving into future civil war tinfoil hat gun nutter territory.

Quote (Thebarba @ Sep 1 2025 10:58pm)

I'd put 100k$ on you having said completely unironically that the American right would lose a civil war because they have bump stock AR-15 rifles and the government has B2 stealth bombers / insert another intimidating military vehicle at some point in your life, probably a dozen times at least

Quote (SBD @ Sep 2 2025 03:22am)

I mean to be fair and as a gun owner myself of quite a few, see zero reason anything besides a pump shotgun and a bolt action rifle ever need to be sold to the public. They cover every single base. Home defence a shotgun with a buckshot will outdo a handgun all day, and everything hunting a bolt action, and pump for birds.



I mean obviously its far to late now due to the amount of firearms circulating.

Everything else really has zero purpose imo.

Quote (SBD @ Sep 1 2025 11:42am)

I think it's the moderate stance twords guns. To say they have no purpose isn't true.

To say some models have no purpose for you average American holds truth. It's not uncommon to restrict things to a degree, we do it with all sorts of things.

And that does not mean special purpose use cases can't exist. A wildlife guide or ranger should still be able to have a handgun via a secondary class of restricted licence. Joe blow does not need a glock though.

But there's just too much circulating now anyways. If certain things were made illegal it would be very easy to just get your hands on whatever you want still and those are the people who are most likely to misuse firearms to begin with, not your law abiding citizens. If someone wants to do bad they would still easily find a way at this point.

Canada is currently going through a buy back system which is fucking moronic. A money sink pandering to some audience.

Quote (Sh00p @ Sep 2 2025 05:46pm)

The problem is, Americans went through this declining mental state when it came to firearms, that if they dont all have the most powerful firearms they possibly can as well as more ammunition than food, a dark skinned person is guaranteed to show up immediately (whenever that is) kill their family and take everything they have. Because fuck police am I right? Dont pay any mind to how many people this doesnt happen to, we have propaganda to shove onto people. Then all the lobbying to further perpetuate this nonsense onto the dumb, scared populace occurred. And now that limp skin bobby has his 63,000$ in firearms and ammunition, and its been 25 years without a single disturbance in his entire neighborhood, theres no reason to feel the least bit silly about that choice. Better to have it and never use it I always say!