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Aug 21 2025 12:04pm
Just typical trump not interested in actually understanding the question or discussion.

The sad reality is that both parties were moving towards making mail in voting easier in 2017-2018. Then due to Covid/demographic differences more dems voted by mail in 2020 and orange Jesus has decided he hates the idea so obviously maga has done an about face to appease him.

He also has no legal authority to do this.
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Aug 21 2025 12:09pm
My understanding is the existing mail in ballot systems being used are vulnerable to either being lost, cast by another citizen, or hijacked and used to obtain signatures from vulnerable voters (Something about nursing homes and the like being targeted). Problems with putting the ballot in the wrong box or people making fake ballot boxes to delete votes.


I'm not sure the risks balance out against the convenience here.


I think it needs improved to reduce these risks. Maga rewind 100 years is equally risky.

Perhaps the old school way favors the manipulation of the Reds and the Blues better at molesting the mail in.


Seems a great use case for a single token Blockchain voting apparatus


ETH needs to hurry the fuck up on smart contracts. blockchain voting would be based af.
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Aug 21 2025 12:48pm
ETH needs to hurry the fuck up on smart contracts. blockchain voting would be based af.


Makes too much sense for politicians to ever pass it
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Aug 21 2025 12:51pm
Who wants to tell DeSantis the bad news???

DeSantis says Trump isn’t trying to ban mail voting in Florida

https://www.tampabay.com/news/florida-politics/elections/2025/08/19/desantis-trump-mail-voting-absentee-machines-harvesting/

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Aug 21 2025 12:59pm
pretty funny, pretend that there is vast corruption, confuse half the country into believing it might be true, then literally destroying a valid way for millions of people to vote, and also making it even harder to vote for those who preferred going in person

which statistically just means more voter apathy, which will delegitimize the voting process even further

and if you people don't think he's gonna stop at just taking away convenience, this has already shown to hurt the left multiple times(not because of fraud mind you, because of big city populations having difficulty gathering in one space to vote, big cities typically leaning left)

it's anti american(anti human even), but i'm pretty sure literally zero people here on this forum care about other people so carry on
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Aug 21 2025 01:01pm
pretty funny, pretend that there is vast corruption, confuse half the country into believing it might be true, then literally destroying a valid way for millions of people to vote, and also making it even harder to vote for those who preferred going in person

which statistically just means more voter apathy, which will delegitimize the voting process even further

and if you people don't think he's gonna stop at just taking away convenience, this has already shown to hurt the left multiple times(not because of fraud mind you, because of big city populations having difficulty gathering in one space to vote, big cities typically leaning left)

it's anti american(anti human even), but i'm pretty sure literally zero people here on this forum care about other people so carry on


boomers and elderly also vote by mail in large numbers. he might be shooting his own foot to own the libs.
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Aug 21 2025 01:07pm
My understanding is the existing mail in ballot systems being used are vulnerable to either being lost, cast by another citizen, or hijacked and used to obtain signatures from vulnerable voters (Something about nursing homes and the like being targeted). Problems with putting the ballot in the wrong box or people making fake ballot boxes to delete votes.


I'm not sure the risks balance out against the convenience here.


I think it needs improved to reduce these risks. Maga rewind 100 years is equally risky.

Perhaps the old school way favors the manipulation of the Reds and the Blues better at molesting the mail in.


Seems a great use case for a single token Blockchain voting apparatus


The primary issue I believe is exactly as you say, potential in transit tampering, coercion of voters, and fake ballots.

But like a drug dealer, crush one way and they will find another. Fraud will happen regardless, voter booths, electronically, etc as long as there's human involvement somewhere in the process, be it programing a machine or counting and "auditing" ballots from a box. How much, or how material, I don't think we know.

Now just because one will find another way does not mean you ignore highly susceptible areas. Does mail in voting by the actual numbers though indicate pervasive material fraud? If no does the additional susceptibility warrant removing a clearly used system?

I wouldn't think it does, it's likely most rational people would come to that conclusion as well with the caveat of potentially introducing other safeguards.

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Aug 21 2025 01:28pm
good thing the founding fathers understood human nature and made the US a Consitutional Republic

But if it makes you happy to live in fantasy land and believe propaganda, that's your free choice.
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Aug 21 2025 01:48pm
Honestly can you even trust elections results without the votes being hand counted by Sean Hannity?

This post was edited by duffman316 on Aug 21 2025 01:48pm
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Aug 21 2025 01:51pm
good thing the founding fathers understood human nature and made the US a Consitutional Republic

But if it makes you happy to live in fantasy land and believe propaganda, that's your free choice.


I’m pretty sure our founding fathers would be absolutely appalled by the state of our republic these days.
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