God is all knowing all powerful meaning when he created Lucifer he already knew he would betray him. So Lucifer is part of his bigger overall plans. Being against Lucifer is being against gods plan.

^ This 100%

I did no such thing

There's always a fall guy.

Exactly what lucifer, who composed the bible from the dead works of the saints he k1lled, would say.

If jesus were alive he most certainly wouldnt allow for the abominations going on in earth,the same way a good parent wouldnt allow their child to be tortured in their own home unless they were d34d or could do nothing because of an evil authority more "powerful" than they.

since its a righteous omnipotent god it simply cannot happen at all, the burden is even greater since gods omnipotence rests on it.
So in order for your claim to be valid, christ or jesus has to be either dead or less powerful than lucifer currently. meaning satan or lucifer is god at the moment and jesus cannot save or do anything about it presently.
thats a fact either way regardless of the viewpoint.
No manner of prayer is going to remove evil things and hasnt. And if god were alive he could simply unweave the fabric within creation since he wove the very fabric of human existence.
Instead, satan uses mans hands or works inside of the dome to sew discord, again evidencing that satan lost creational power and is pretending to be god to stay alive.

TLDR satan k1lled god, stole creation, and pretend to be god in order to deceive 1/3++
You dont think lucifer just said hey im a loser angel follow me and betray god did you? LOL. ya no bro aint no1 doing that at the start of time.

This post was edited by lodd222 on Aug 19 2025 04:29pm

According to their own fairy book
Nothing can happen without the magic man's will/permission. Therefore lucifer/devil/Satan is simply a proxy for god. They are one and the same. To claim otherwise is to deny truth.

Ofc none of this is real but it does pose a conundrum in their poorly fabricated story.

This is 100% correct. Lucifer/devil guy is someone you blame for your own performance issues.

If someone contracts a horrible disease and gets cured = god is there to take credit and pats himself on the back
If not cured = doctor failed, Satan's fault, lag, unlucky etc....

Damn this thread turned into a wtf one…

Youre really going to play bad cop atheist to satans divine book of worship aka christianity's good cop bible?

One generates worship to satan who masquerades as god who they think is jesus.

The other is irl form of god tron where youre simply expected to not know youre living in a monopoly game that intelligently states you're not the product of intelligence. lmfao.

ill pass on both but atleast naive christians know you cant have intelligence in conversations if intelligence isnt in the formula.

however you can tell who is a benefactor as i still have given my 10% back to chriistian charity. aka my persecution is a voucher for my truths.

i would not be persecuted if i was a liar. yours was removed. makes sense to me.





he backs the devil, his warn goes -10%. proofs in the pudding. one day you wont have a devil to cheer lead. itll just be me.

This post was edited by lodd222 on Aug 19 2025 04:40pm