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Aug 8 2025 06:10pm
You are vs your struggle is real.

Saying you are proof of magic is a non answer. You need to be able to connect the dots and articulate how otherwise its simply an assumption.

This is called alleged certainty or begging the question which is another fallacy.

(Asserting a conclusion without evidence or premises, through a statement that makes the conclusion appear certain when, in fact, it is not.)


you demand i bring an argument backing my assertion, throwing in my face what i have so many times demanded of others.
:) your terms are acceptable.

its hard to believe its been over a century and a half ago since darwin published his book "the origin of species". based completely upon imagination it brought in the new competing religion of atheism where man is now God. in this imagination life no longer needed a creator. life was merely a result of some kind of accidental process.

SCIENCE HAS BEEN EXTRAORDINARILY CRUEL TO THE ATHEIST
but with the advancement of science we can now see (if one is honest about it) that life being the result of some king of naturalistic process is impossible. the complexity and interdependence (interdependence- all systems have to be in place at the same time or the system fails and the organism dies) is off the charts. the stuff (living systems) is light years more complex than anything man has ever made. your not looking at a accident, your not looking at "magic" you looking at advanced technology and science has no explanation for it. and if science cannot explain it by definition it is super natural.
su·per·nat·u·ral
[ˌso͞opərˈnaCH(ə)rəl]
adjective
(of a manifestation or event) attributed to some force beyond scientific understanding or the laws of nature:
"a supernatural being

you see it says "a supernatural being (not according to me) according to science addone, is a supernatural being and therefore he is proof of God

This post was edited by TiStuff on Aug 8 2025 06:11pm
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Aug 8 2025 07:17pm
you demand i bring an argument backing my assertion, throwing in my face what i have so many times demanded of others.
:) your terms are acceptable.

its hard to believe its been over a century and a half ago since darwin published his book "the origin of species". based completely upon imagination it brought in the new competing religion of atheism where man is now God. in this imagination life no longer needed a creator. life was merely a result of some kind of accidental process.

SCIENCE HAS BEEN EXTRAORDINARILY CRUEL TO THE ATHEIST
but with the advancement of science we can now see (if one is honest about it) that life being the result of some king of naturalistic process is impossible. the complexity and interdependence (interdependence- all systems have to be in place at the same time or the system fails and the organism dies) is off the charts. the stuff (living systems) is light years more complex than anything man has ever made. your not looking at a accident, your not looking at "magic" you looking at advanced technology and science has no explanation for it. and if science cannot explain it by definition it is super natural.
su·per·nat·u·ral
[ˌso͞opərˈnaCH(ə)rəl]
adjective
(of a manifestation or event) attributed to some force beyond scientific understanding or the laws of nature:
"a supernatural being

you see it says "a supernatural being (not according to me) according to science addone, is a supernatural being and therefore he is proof of God


Lack of proof of something doesnt constitute a proof for something else. (Just because science doesn't explain everything little detail on how the universe came about doesnt mean "therefore magic".)
This is called argument from ignorance which is another fallacy.

Stating that "naturalistic process" is impossible while asserting it must be magic instead is wild coping mechanism.
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Aug 8 2025 07:20pm
Lack of proof of something doesnt constitute a proof for something else. (Just because science doesn't explain everything little detail on how the universe came about doesnt mean "therefore magic".)
This is called argument from ignorance which is another fallacy.

Stating that "naturalistic process" is impossible while asserting it must be magic instead is wild coping mechanism.


life (living systems ) is observable at the molecular level. the 'atheist has lost. tut tut now, no more red herrings
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Aug 8 2025 08:09pm
life (living systems ) is observable at the molecular level. the 'atheist has lost. tut tut now, no more red herrings


So what if life exists at molecular level how does this prove "god"? You are riding an assertion carousel.

Make an assertion
Got proof?
Answer with an assumption
How is it connected?
Make another assertion
That still doesn't prov..
Make another assertion
Repeat


(This is called proof by assertion, sometimes informally referred to as proof by repeated assertion, is an informal fallacy in which a proposition is repeatedly restated regardless of contradiction and refutation.)

Hopefully today's lesson was revealing on how you are a bad faith actor using repeated logical fallacies in order not to admit to yourself that you are wrong.


~ Its easier to fool people then to convince them they have been fooled.

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Aug 8 2025 08:43pm
I believe that the non-sequitur is much beloved by our local christians
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Aug 8 2025 08:46pm
So what if life exists at molecular level how does this prove "god"? You are riding an assertion carousel.

Make an assertion
Got proof?
Answer with an assumption
How is it connected?
Make another assertion
That still doesn't prov..
Make another assertion
Repeat


(This is called proof by assertion, sometimes informally referred to as proof by repeated assertion, is an informal fallacy in which a proposition is repeatedly restated regardless of contradiction and refutation.)

Hopefully today's lesson was revealing on how you are a bad faith actor using repeated logical fallacies in order not to admit to yourself that you are wrong.


~ Its easier to fool people then to convince them they have been fooled.


miss quote and miss represent my argument, your logical fallacy is "straw manning"
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Aug 8 2025 08:48pm
I believe that the non-sequitur is much beloved by our local christians


you bring proof of accusation?
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Aug 8 2025 09:24pm
miss quote and miss represent my argument, your logical fallacy is "straw manning"


There you go again making more false assertions without explaining how. Must be difficult to lie to yourself instead of accepting the fact that the storybook you believe all your life cannot be proven.

BTW still haven't received any proof from you explaining precisely how magic is real.

you bring proof of accusation?


Where is your proof bruv? Inb4 dodge like a coward.
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Aug 8 2025 09:30pm
There you go again making more false assertions without explaining how. Must be difficult to lie to yourself instead of accepting the fact that the storybook you believe all your life cannot be proven.

BTW still haven't received any proof from you explaining precisely how magic is real.



Where is your proof bruv? Inb4 dodge like a coward.


magic is just unexplained science.
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Aug 8 2025 10:04pm
There you go again making more false assertions without explaining how. Must be difficult to lie to yourself instead of accepting the fact that the storybook you believe all your life cannot be proven.

BTW still haven't received any proof from you explaining precisely how magic is real.



Where is your proof bruv? Inb4 dodge like a coward.



guilty of stinky red herring. ty for playing.........

This post was edited by TiStuff on Aug 8 2025 10:05pm
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