If you’re mini guide is this bad I can only imagine how bad the rest of it is

I know that in comparison to popular build that my ones would be deemed bad. Its like that meme of musical styles where the two top faces are arguing about whether a singer sucks or not and the bottom two faces are saying "Dave Mustaine sucks at singing" and the one with the MegadetH tshirt says " I know lol"

I do test all my builds out for a while before posting anything, I make sure I get them all up to around level 90 (usually solo not just baal runs) and do all areas in the 5 acts to see where they are good and where they arent, if I post a build it will be at least capable at doing something

Thanks for reading the posts and commenting :-)

Going to make a cold damage barbarian build soon but it will take a while because I have to test it with full gear, cannot just theory craft (it might really suck). And I have 3fg so might take a while xD

I remember Chaos Sanc with iron maiden, Berserk barb was a great option for it but you always had to be careful of mana burn because you could still die easily from default attack in a split second. so poison Necromancer was way better for old CS imo

I tried doing a build that teleports only to the champions and uniques and bosses but ignoring all the other content , to me is not in the spirit of the game and I love D2 so I want to play the game and not skip 99% of it. Its ok if you are doing a holy grail farm for TC87 items and dont have access to terror zones but I think its a strategy made popular in the past and might be subpar now.

For example people run Baal whilst it is a terror zone, and they still teleport to the throne room and are totally ignorant to the fact that all the waves of minions giving high amounts of experience especially the last wave was only due to the monsters themselves being much higher level than regular mobs normally, just like the bosses are.. but in a terror zone run all the normal mobs are lvl 96 etc and everyone in the game would gain 4-5 times the amount of experience per run if everyone cleared the worldstone chamber level 2 and 3 instead of teleporting past it.
It gets to the point where I can leave an 8 player baal run game and run the worldstone and clear it myself and Im getting better xp for my time on players 1...

Monster density is like item quantity, all of this is lost if people just teleport straight to bosses

I wish they would nerf teleport and make it castable every 6 seconds or so instead of instantly, its the one skill in the game that truly feels like cheating.

Yea I know you’re aware that your builds are off meta but I respect that you’re trying new stuff and it’s decent stuff considering the self imposed constraints. If they ever do nerf enigma you’ll have a head start too

You need to read, I stated the CSBarbar, not my Demonbasher... both identical in skills, just different gear, Mass_Bnm went for FCR .. maybe his was 105, but then that was 17 years agaon. I only needed those FCR BPs below.

Faster Cast Rate (FCR) Total
Heart of the Oak (Hoto)x1 = 40% = 10fps Breakpoint
Heart of the Oak (Hoto)x2 = 80% = 9fps Breakpoint
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Your issue is what you wrote, you don't know how effective it was, because you are blinded by what you think is best. I know it works, even though different gear can be used... the Skill layout is optimal, gear and play-style changes the intent of the build.
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Nice... mana burn is only an issue if people tele constantly and end up in that pack. I would just run, howl and kill Caster Knights and Champions + (solo) ... if in a group I would herd monsters for the others to kill, like the Light Java, Light Sorc or the Hammerdin, even though they are doing their own thing, also, in a Rush game, I use howl to keep the stragglers safe from monsters left by the rusher, this happens a lot.

I like your Aesthetics to clearing monsters, I also agree with the "Monster Density" and items they drop, even in LoD, I would run whole River to Chaos and Diablo, also would clear all WSK areas and both sides of Throne Room first, then Baal, they should be cleared like clearing Pits, level 1 & 2 or other level 85 areas. Mind you I do use a different character, I will clear pits with my Berserker though.

If you are going to put a "Cool down" period for teleport, that kills the Sorc and the FCR... they could change the Barbs FCR BPs, I never understood how a barb can cast as fast as a sorc anyway.



Note: I like the idea of you using different gear ... Reduction Gear on barb, would be interesting the way it is played (play style) to see how it feels.

This post was edited by izParagonzi on Aug 4 2025 04:39pm

watching you bend over backwards trying to defend your objectively trash builds is hilarious. Keep going

No defense necessary, don't you know how a Berserk barb works.

Yes, better than you. It’s not even a complex build yet you managed to fuck it up somehow

This post was edited by Void511 on Aug 5 2025 02:33am

Ignorance comes from those that are too arrogant OR closed minded.

Skill & stat allocation makes the Build... end of story... you fuck up the skill allocation, it is fucked, and what did Blizzard do... they introduced Respec and respec items to fix human error on their build(s) Skill and Stat allocations... wow, talk about Softcore even as a Hardcore player.

Equipment ENHANCES the Build based on the Skill & Stat allocation.

Strategies playing the game comes from the Build, their Skill allocation & Gear, Stat allocation is for the gear to Wield.

Strategies change based on patches, updates and all the other BS.

Well my Demonbasher Guide is true to its' Skill allocation, it is also true to the items it uses including stat placement, HOWEVER, changing equipment alone for 105% FCR changes the Strategy to play the game just by equipping different gear.

You and your mediocre banter is childish, because you follow the same structure and try to prove another person wrong, thinking you are baiting, well you are the biggest fish I have caught every time during a Decade or responses. Now let us look at the OP's Build.

This MDR / PDR build is different based on the Skills and Equipment, and the Stat allocation is subjected by the Equipment to be used.

20 Weapon Mastery (sword at this point for Grief phase blade increases dmg to WW & Berserk)
20 Whirlwind for crowd control and Leech keeping some defense
20 Berserk for Magical damage vs a Single monster or Boss & 0 Defense No Leech.
20 Howl for Synergy to Berserk to increase that skill damage by 200%
01 Battle Orders (more life & mana)
01 to all pre-requisites.
01 to Find Item ??? & 01 pre req

Hmm, Natural Res maybe???

Gear:

Vamp Gaze
Gladiators Bane
Grief Phase Blade
Stormshield
Gore Riders (mention of crafted 30frw with ?)
String of Ears (got some Life Leech)
LoH (i put this here just for the IAS/350% ed vs Demons & the Fire Res) ... other, crafted etc.

Highlords (only if you need the 20% ias, however it is worthwhile skill, DS) ... Cats Eye... the FRW to counter Movement penalty or Crescent moon which is stipulated by OP with other choices.
2x Dwarf Stars is OPs recommendation. Guessing CbF is added to a Socket from either Helm, Armor or Shield. (sorry, missed the 2x ber mentioned in OP post).

What BPs does this build meet?
IAS?
FRW so it is not running around slowly because of the Walk/Run Penalty of Heavy Armor types? Light, Medium, Heavy ... Helm, Armor & Shield?
Leech... with the damage output, 5-7% in each should be sufficient.

Now with the skill layout and the equipment added, the stats have been assigned, your movement speed is based on equipment as well, your damage output is set (excluding external add ons from Merc), and now you have to create a great strategy around this build.

Hey, the build does work, no denying it, but add up the numbers, find out what BPs you have covered, your hit points, mana pool and all that guff right Void??? then it is a great build right Void??? ... well, my Demonbasher covered all of it, and, even with gear changes, you can make the build fit the player based on their strategy, hence why a ton of players after 17 years went with a Berserk barb, it can be molded to the player... just like the OPs Build... so calling mine shit, is calling every other Berserker barb created after mine is shit.

Oh, if they don't have Movement penalties in D2;r ... yay, you maybe able to build a 150 FRW Berserker Barb to Kite or tele stomp run.
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Hey sorry for all the bs in your guide, can you give the readers a breakdown of your Breakpoints, Leech total and your % Enhanced Damage from your skills including items, weapon mastery and also your resistance total in Hell Difficulty fully equipped... I am guessing you are doing solo P1 mostly, but if not great... what is your Battle Orders % after Synergies and items, even if you switch to CtA / Spirit. FRW speed?

Thanks, it is just for your build, I do find it interesting, just trying to capitalize on the benefits..

This post was edited by izParagonzi on Aug 6 2025 11:27pm