Israel is part of the American Empire bro..Without American weapons, planes there is no Israel. What you think it just spoofed into existence from nothing? God made it ? Who wants to admit they are brainwashed? They call themselves educated lol .. Do Palestinians have roots?

Between 1948 and 1967, the United States was not Israel’s main military supporter. In fact, there was a formal arms embargo on the entire region, which included Israel. During the 1948 War of Independence, Israel had to secure weapons from countries like Czechoslovakia and France.

In the 1956 Sinai Campaign, Israel coordinated with France and the United Kingdom, not the United States. France was Israel’s primary arms supplier at the time, providing equipment like Mirage fighter jets.

Even during the 1967 Six-Day War, the U.S. still had not become a significant military backer. In fact, France had just cut off arms shipments to Israel before the war. It was only after 1967 that the United States began developing a closer military relationship with Israel.

Which means the US aid came after Israel was thriving.

Prove me wrong!


Palestinians have roots in Turkmenistan, Syria, Egypt, Yemen, Iraq and Arabia


Without American support, Israel would likely have developed its own advanced weapons anyway. In many cases, it already did. Israel built its own fighter jet called the IAI Lavi, developed cutting-edge drone technology, created its own tanks like the Merkava, and built missile defense systems such as Iron Dome, David’s Sling, and Arrow. It also launched its own satellites and cyber technologies.


This post was edited by Many_Names on Jul 30 2025 09:03am

and Palestine.

The IAI Lavi Fighter Jet (1980s)

Israel developed the Lavi, a cutting-edge multirole fighter jet that was fully domestic and highly advanced for its time.
The United States initially helped fund the project, but later applied significant political pressure to shut it down.
The reason was simple. The Lavi was seen as a direct competitor to American aircraft, especially the F-16, in the international market.
In 1987, following heavy lobbying from the U.S., Israel canceled the project.
Many view this not as a strategic decision, but as a move to protect American defense industry dominance.

This sent a clear message. Do not compete with us. Buy from us instead.
If the U.S. demanded Israel cancel its own fighter jet program, it owed a serious alternative in return.

The Lavi proved something important. Israel has the knowledge, the engineers, and the willpower to lead in aerospace.
With or without U.S. support, Israel will continue to build, innovate, and succeed don't flatter yourself


This post was edited by Many_Names on Jul 30 2025 09:35am

sounds like 1 city is left in all of gaza that isn't rubble already. and its currently targeted for a ground invasion. i am not sure how Israel could possibly argue a war is still required after that city falls, but we all know they'll find a way.

The idea that once one city falls the war “should be over” ignores the reality of how asymmetric warfare works. Hamas doesn’t operate like a conventional army that surrenders when territory is lost. It embeds in civilian areas, relocates, and rebuilds. Even if the last major city falls, as long as Hamas still has fighters, weapons, and leadership, the threat remains. The war ends when that threat is neutralized, not when it’s convenient for outside observers.

translation: when everyone is dead or the entire country is evacuated, then and only then will the war stop.

you give strength to everyone you've ever argued against, who have said all along that this was always the end game for Israel. there is no moderate path that is even acceptable, total destruction is the only goal.

That's the reality though, is it not?

The Palestinians appear to intend to fight to the death, just like the Japanese did. The difference is Japan was smart enough to surrender after the display of the overwhelming might of the nuclear bomb. The overwhelming might of the IDF against them still isn't enough, so I guess they'll all fight to the death, which means exactly what you said, the war only ends when the entire country is purged. The part you seem to struggle to understand is that this is the choice of the Palestinians and not Israel, who would love for them to surrender if only to minimize their losses of men.

https://thebulletin.org/2014/04/did-israel-steal-bomb-grade-uranium-from-the-united-states/

Israel stole its first nuclear enriched Uranium from the US in the 1960's, everything your country is, is fake. you live on stolen land, you murder civilians using stolen military secrets and technology, the only reason you have nuclear power is because it was stolen. what a joke of a country LOL

This post was edited by gnarjay on Jul 30 2025 11:35am