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Jul 30 2025 05:45am
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Thank you — I’ve read through all the quotes. They are thoughtful, detailed, and express strong ethical and legal concerns about the Israeli government's actions, international law, the consequences of war, and the importance of dialogue, accountability, and justice. While several of these quotes are powerful, one that stands out for its moral clarity and emotional resonance is this part from quote 5: "If a criminal, or terrorist or school shooter, or murderer or whatever is shooting and hiding in a classroom with children and women hostages and your method to neutralise them is to throw in a handgrenade and kill everyone inside you’re guilty. The ends doesn’t justify the means and Israel has in this conflict killed a small football stadium of kids."

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Based on these quotes, this person holds strongly critical views of Israeli actions while advocating for Palestinian rights and a two-state solution. The quote that best encapsulates their view is: Quote #6: "Israel is in my opinion turning into the very thing they vowed to protect themselves against."

Deepseek:

This person’s views reflect a strongly pro-Palestinian, anti-occupation perspective, critical of Israel’s military actions, settlement policies, and Western support for Israel. Their arguments are grounded in international law, moral condemnation of civilian casualties, and skepticism toward Israel’s long-term intentions. The quote that best encapsulates their view is: "Israel is turning into the very thing they vowed to protect themselves against."

When all 3 were asked if user was an anti-semite the answer was NO.

I am proud to stand shoulder to shoulder with this user. Being critical of Israel is not a crime and to bury one's head in the sand, to look away, to deflect, or worse, to support these actions in words and deeds, to deny that terrible things are happening is a stain on humanity.


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Jul 30 2025 05:53am
You say you don’t support Hamas, but every argument you make shields them from responsibility. You focus almost entirely on blaming Israel while downplaying or ignoring Hamas’s use of human shields, aid theft, and genocidal intent. If you’re going to criticize, at least be honest about who’s perpetuating the cycle. Opposing Israel without holding Hamas equally accountable isn’t neutrality, it’s complicity in distortion.”


I'm sorry you're seeing it like that but it's not an accurate or fair view point of any of my arguments against Israel.
We are in large arguing that Israel is going to far. WAY to far. Genocidal, war crime, ethnic cleansing far. Those arguments, and documentation we have brought forward might seem to you like support of hamas, but they are just showing a picture of a government that has lost it's way.
These critisisms are in my opinion completely fair. That you feel like i don't blame hamas - i do - we all agree on it though so what is there to talk about? We disagree on how far Israel is going, so that's what we're talking about.
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Jul 30 2025 06:04am
I'm sorry you're seeing it like that but it's not an accurate or fair view point of any of my arguments against Israel.
We are in large arguing that Israel is going to far. WAY to far. Genocidal, war crime, ethnic cleansing far. Those arguments, and documentation we have brought forward might seem to you like support of hamas, but they are just showing a picture of a government that has lost it's way.
These critisisms are in my opinion completely fair. That you feel like i don't blame hamas - i do - we all agree on it though so what is there to talk about? We disagree on how far Israel is going, so that's what we're talking about.


You say you blame Hamas, but only in passing. Every post you write is aimed at portraying Israel as uniquely evil, while Hamas fades into the background as a footnote. That’s not balance. That’s a narrative.

I think continuing this argument won’t get us anywhere. Instead, I want to ask you something real, what would you do if it were your people who were massacred in their homes, in their kibbutzim and cities? If your people were dragged into tunnels? If someone else was openly chanting for their genocide? Would you leave them be?
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You say you blame Hamas, but only in passing. Every post you write is aimed at portraying Israel as uniquely evil, while Hamas fades into the background as a footnote. That’s not balance. That’s a narrative.


As I said we agree about the actions of Hamas - so what is there to talk about?

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I think continuing this argument won’t get us anywhere. Instead, I want to ask you something real, what would you do if it were your people who were massacred in their homes, in their kibbutzim and cities? If your people were dragged into tunnels? If someone else was openly chanting for their genocide? Would you leave them be?


I would use whatever means i had to find and punish the guilty. Only the guilty.
I wouldn't wage war on a civilian population
I wouldn't cut of baby formular, water and electricity in order to terrorize a population into giving up the guilty.

If i did, i would hope i had friends around me that would tell to my face that i was going too far to achieve my goals of vengance and that i should be better than the ones i try to prosecute. That the society i built based on equality, liberty and freedom is not just words they are perspectives and if you cannot grant that to your neighbours you soon will find the government will deem you no longer derserve them yourself.
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Jul 30 2025 06:30am
As I said we agree about the actions of Hamas - so what is there to talk about?



I would use whatever means i had to find and punish the guilty. Only the guilty.
I wouldn't wage war on a civilian population
I wouldn't cut of baby formular, water and electricity in order to terrorize a population into giving up the guilty.

If i did, i would hope i had friends around me that would tell to my face that i was going too far to achieve my goals of vengance and that i should be better than the ones i try to prosecute. That the society i built based on equality, liberty and freedom is not just words they are perspectives and if you cannot grant that to your neighbours you soon will find the government will deem you no longer derserve them yourself.


No military in the world can accept a reality where terrorists are immune just because they hide among civilians. If that logic held true, every school or hospital would be used as a base. The presence of civilians does not remove responsibility from those firing rockets, digging tunnels, or planning massacres from those places. It makes them harder to reach, not untouchable.

I wish it was that simple by surgically remove 50,000 people in an instant.

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Jul 30 2025 06:41am
No military in the world can accept a reality where terrorists are immune just because they hide among civilians. If that logic held true, every school or hospital would be used as a base. The presence of civilians does not remove responsibility from those firing rockets, digging tunnels, or planning massacres from those places. It makes them harder to reach, not untouchable.

I wish it was that simple by surgically remove 50,000 people in an instant.


Well it certainly hasn't stopped israel from dropping more than 100,000 tons of explosives on a crowded city while simultaneously cutting them off from even the most basic of necessities.

https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/israel-dropped-100-000-tons-of-explosives-over-gaza-wiped-out-2-200-families-media-office/3561614
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Jul 30 2025 06:51am
Well it certainly hasn't stopped israel from dropping more than 100,000 tons of explosives on a crowded city while simultaneously cutting them off from even the most basic of necessities.

https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/israel-dropped-100-000-tons-of-explosives-over-gaza-wiped-out-2-200-families-media-office/3561614


But warning them before and making sure at least most of them are not in harms way.
Can you say it on any other army?
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But warning them before and making sure at least most of them are not in harms way.
Can you say it on any other army?


No i cannot come up with examples of any other army doing that.
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Jul 30 2025 07:29am
Being raised Israeli doesn’t mean I was brainwashed. It means I grew up surrounded by people who’ve had to defend their lives against genocidal threats, not slogans. Your version of history skips over centuries of persecution, expulsion, and legal returns. Jews didn’t ‘steal’ anything. They rebuilt, legally and under international mandate, a homeland where they were indigenous long before colonial powers redrew borders. If you’re going to talk about stolen land, you might want to start with every Arab empire that colonized half the world , including Judea!


We are all brainwashed to think the way we think..You would agree if I said it about hamas and those you condemn with hamas.. How else could you justify Israel if you do not believe brainwashing is real ..Military schools are best for this..And all of Israel is 1 big military school..OK saying my point on how we are all brainwashed..Next thing a Empire does is say if we did not do it someone else would or did .. :thumbsup: Brit's said they did better in Africa then Africans did .. so forth and on and on ..
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Jul 30 2025 07:56am
We are all brainwashed to think the way we think..You would agree if I said it about hamas and those you condemn with hamas.. How else could you justify Israel if you do not believe brainwashing is real ..Military schools are best for this..And all of Israel is 1 big military school..OK saying my point on how we are all brainwashed..Next thing a Empire does is say if we did not do it someone else would or did .. :thumbsup: Brit's said they did better in Africa then Africans did .. so forth and on and on ..


There’s a big difference between brainwashing and knowing your history. Learning about what your people went through and the threats they faced doesn’t mean you were manipulated. It just means you understand your roots. You’re calling it brainwashing because you don’t like the conclusions, not because the facts are wrong.

And let’s be honest, Israel isn’t an empire trying to grab land for power. It’s a nation returning to the only place it ever called home after centuries of exile and persecution. That’s not conquest. That’s return.
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