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Jul 30 2025 06:23am
https://www.theguardian.com/games/2025/jul/29/why-did-adult-titles-disappear-from-steam-itch-pc-gaming-payment-processors

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In recent years, payment processors have become increasingly strict about transactions relating to adult content... Mastercard imposed a new policy regulating adult content sellers – one criticised by the American Civil Liberties Union as being restrictive to free speech... an example of what is known as financial censorship.

On 16 July, Valve, the developer of Steam, updated its rules and guidelines to include “content that may violate the rules and standards set forth by Steam’s payment processors” including “certain kinds of adult content”.

In the last two weeks, thousands of “adult only” and “not safe for work” games have disappeared from Steam and itch.io – two of the most prominent distribution platforms for PC video games – as they scrambled to comply with stricter rules mandated by payment processors such as MasterCard, Visa, and PayPal.

These rules were established after a campaign by the organisation Collective Shout, which urged payment processors to stop facilitating payments to platforms hosting “rape, incest and child sexual abuse-themed games”. But the new rules have affected a far broader range of games – including some award-winning titles.


So what's my fellow enlightened jspers thoughts on this subject of censorship? Should payment processors like Visa or MasterCard get to decide what kind of content you're allowed to purchase? Should books that offend the sensibilities of activist groups likewise be censored?

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Jul 30 2025 06:26am
Payment Processors should not have this right or ability. If there is a governing body, let them do it, but payment processors should stay in their own lane.
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Jul 30 2025 06:49am
what happened to "its a private company they can do what ever they want"
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Jul 30 2025 07:38am
I for one support the abolishment of Steam smut. This crap has undoubtedly contributed to the male transgender crisis and abuse of children

Civil society needs borders, this stuff is vile and paedophilic and debases the very fabric of civilization

This post was edited by El1te on Jul 30 2025 07:39am
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Jul 30 2025 07:41am
Payment Processors should not have this right or ability. If there is a governing body, let them do it, but payment processors should stay in their own lane.


I agree in principle, however there is a precedent. Payment processors have long denied other stuff nowhere near as vile as open paedophilia
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Jul 30 2025 07:58am
One of the issues in my country (Ireland) is that the President is not allowed to weigh in on political affairs - he must remain neutral. This is to safe guard the state from any future leader with ill intentions. In this regard the Government is regularly attacked by the opposition and the people for not doing enough when it comes to Israel's treatment of the Palestinians. The President, Michael D Higgins, has been agitated on occasion to speak up. This has resulted in him being repeatedly berated by the government for overstepping his authority.

There are two issues here.

1. That the Government is not doing enough.
2. That the Governments inaction is leading the President to overstep his position in protest.

Ideally the Government would take a strong position but that is unlikely in the climate we are in, ergo the President feels forced to speak for those that cant.

So, with that said, If Steam is a private company doing what most parents would regard as selling questionable content, and if it refuses to adequately moderate itself properly, then if a 3rd party, in this case the Payment Processors have successfully...presided, over the issue, fine..? HOWEVER this is the slippery slope, noting no single body should have this power and what else will they do now that they have tasted power.

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Jul 30 2025 08:00am
https://www.theguardian.com/games/2025/jul/29/why-did-adult-titles-disappear-from-steam-itch-pc-gaming-payment-processors



So what's my fellow enlightened jspers thoughts on this subject of censorship? Should payment processors like Visa or MasterCard get to decide what kind of content you're allowed to purchase? Should books that offend the sensibilities of activist groups likewise be censored?

https://i.imgur.com/1EwVLQX.jpeg


I was not even aware of such things on Steam gamer, how interesting.

Ultimately, unless government law prevents, companies should be able to make their own choices, except, the issue is now, the government has failed terribly and allowed such consolidation that then you have only several companies making these choices, offering little in diversity of options. And that clouds the decisiveness of my opinion on this.

Remember PayPal

PayPal received in late 2022 for a revised Acceptable Use Policy (AUP) that included a $2,500 fine for users who violated the policy, particularly for spreading misinformation. This policy sparked widespread criticism and concerns about free speech, leading PayPal to quickly backtrack and claim the policy was an error.

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Jul 30 2025 08:05am
Lol what?

Link me a single game containing child sexual abuse on steam or itch.io. They dont exist as it breaks their terms of service.

Just more fear mongering and hate slinging because what else do these companies have to do with thier time other than get thier ceos killed.
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Jul 30 2025 08:31am
One of the issues in my country (Ireland) is that the President is not allowed to weigh in on political affairs - he must remain neutral. This is to safe guard the state from any future leader with ill intentions. In this regard the Government is regularly attacked by the opposition and the people for not doing enough when it comes to Israel's treatment of the Palestinians. The President, Michael D Higgins, has been agitated on occasion to speak up. This has resulted in him being repeatedly berated by the government for overstepping his authority.

There are two issues here.

1. That the Government is not doing enough.
2. That the Governments inaction is leading the President to overstep his position in protest.

Ideally the Government would take a strong position but that is unlikely in the climate we are in, ergo the President feels forced to speak for those that cant.

So, with that said, If Steam is a private company doing what most parents would regard as selling questionable content, and if it refuses to adequately moderate itself properly, then if a 3rd party, in this case the Payment Processors have successfully...presided, over the issue, fine..? HOWEVER this is the slippery slope, noting no single body should have this power and what else will they do now that they have tasted power.


Incompetence is abdicated authority, and someone else will step in to fill that void. Really this is Steam's fault (probably Newell himself, he clearly has a penchant for this paedophilic stuff) for allowing this in the first place.
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Jul 30 2025 09:01am
Incompetence is abdicated authority


yes a good comment.
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