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Jul 28 2025 01:00pm
Can somebody please explain how this deal VDL just concluded is good for Europe?

Committing to buy more expensive American energy.

Tariffs on EU goods but no tariffs on American goods.

Europeans need to invest their savings / corporate investments into US

Am I missing something?


https://x.com/vonderleyen/status/1949540436659286179


You're missing that nothing is signed into law. You can say anything, go say EU is paying a 90 trillion dollars to the US. Make Trump happy so he forgets and moves to the next thing, delay 3 years, pay nothing
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You're missing that nothing is signed into law. You can say anything, go say EU is paying a 90 trillion dollars to the US. Make Trump happy so he forgets and moves to the next thing, delay 3 years, pay nothing

This.

Those ginormous investment promises are clearly a stall and delay tactic. My biggest gripe is how weak and pathetic it looks for the EU to accept unilateral, rather than symmetric, tariffs.

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This.

Those ginormous investment promises are clearly a stall and delay tactic. My biggest gripe is how weak and pathetic it looks for the EU to accept unilateral, rather than symmetric, tariffs.


No. The EU finds itself stuck between a rock and a hard place. Every country in the EU has hollowed out their defense budget for decades and spent it on welfare while leaning heavily on the US for defense. The sanctions on Russia and destruction of Nord Stream have crippled the EU while the EU has no recourses of it's own. Now the hens are coming home to roost.

The EU needs the US more than ever, for weapons that the EU cannot get anywhere else. It would take decades to build up a military industrial complex comparable to that of the US.

Trump is simply taking advantage of the EU's hopeless position and does so ruthlessly. You've taken advantage of the US for decades, now it's time to pay up and there's nothing you can do about it.
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No. The EU finds itself stuck between a rock and a hard place. Every country in the EU has hollowed out their defense budget for decades and spent it on welfare while leaning heavily on the US for defense. The sanctions on Russia and destruction of Nord Stream have crippled the EU while the EU has no recourses of it's own. Now the hens are coming home to roost.

The EU needs the US more than ever, for weapons that the EU cannot get anywhere else. It would take decades to build up a military industrial complex comparable to that of the US.

Trump is simply taking advantage of the EU's hopeless position and does so ruthlessly. You've taken advantage of the US for decades, now it's time to pay up and there's nothing you can do about it.


These are the facts, everything else is cope from EU people. Stall tactic? Lol

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This.

Those ginormous investment promises are clearly a stall and delay tactic. My biggest gripe is how weak and pathetic it looks for the EU to accept unilateral, rather than symmetric, tariffs.


EU negotiators cornered themselves.

Relations with Russia are in shambles at the moment. Middle East is aghast at absolutely shameless double standards applied by EU to Israel vs Russia. EU just sanctioned Indians for trading with Russia. EU antagonized China hoping to score points with Americans, only for Trump to completely rear-end VdL and her bunch of Brussels bueracrats. Kaja Kallas is nosediving EU foreign policy firmly into the ground.

Gotta give it to Trump - you cannot take “Art of the Deal” away from the guy, he invented it.

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No. The EU finds itself stuck between a rock and a hard place. Every country in the EU has hollowed out their defense budget for decades and spent it on welfare while leaning heavily on the US for defense. The sanctions on Russia and destruction of Nord Stream have crippled the EU while the EU has no recourses of it's own. Now the hens are coming home to roost.

The EU needs the US more than ever, for weapons that the EU cannot get anywhere else. It would take decades to build up a military industrial complex comparable to that of the US.

Trump is simply taking advantage of the EU's hopeless position and does so ruthlessly. You've taken advantage of the US for decades, now it's time to pay up and there's nothing you can do about it.


These are the facts, everything else is cope from EU people. Stall tactic? Lol

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EU is screwed but has nothing to do with this "deal"

There is literally no deal, nothing is signed, every detail can change tomorrow. Only idiots would trust Trump's word at this point, he is liable to lie to anyone
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EU is screwed but has nothing to do with this "deal"

There is literally no deal, nothing is signed, every detail can change tomorrow. Only idiots would trust Trump's word at this point, he is liable to lie to anyone


Delusional cope
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Delusional cope


Boring. What am I coping about? I hope you can do better than that
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Boring. What am I coping about? I hope you can do better than that


Trump & the right wing winning literally everywhere?

You seem to be having trouble adjusting to the new reality, you're well aware that you and your wretched leftist friends are headed right for hard labour camps, and there is nothing you can do to stop it because all you have are lies and impotent acts of violence

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Trump & the right wing winning literally everywhere?

You seem to be having trouble adjusting to the new reality, you're well aware that you and your wretched leftist friends are headed right for hard labour camps


Wrong, I'm a registered Republican. You're too blind to see facts and are too busy spamming fake news to help with your insecurity. Every side makes mistakes

Right now, as a conservative Republican I am telling you that factually speaking, there is no deal signed
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