faith based belief if i ever heard one.



i am meeting you at the level you are demanding...........

How is that a faith based belief?

i assume they told you your their kid and you believe them by faith/trust

I have a birth certificate which is basically confirmation that my mother birthed me. My father didnt do a test to confirm it, but I look a lot like him and therefor I have no reason to think otherwise. I see what you try to do here, but that doesnt work.

You wanna act like faith in god equals an evidence-based conclusion. Sorry, but it doesnt work.

This post was edited by Saurod on Jul 29 2025 02:10am

faith is a simple word it means trust. 'atheists are being dishonest when they misrepresent it.

your stuff is just anecdotal and anecdotal evidence isnt really evidence

No, but I could gather the evidence needed to prove what I believe in this case, its not like there arent ways to factcheck familiy relations.

You cant do that with god.

I suppose gravity is just a matter of faith too, since I’ve never seen an atom 'decide' to fall. Let’s not confuse reasoned inference with religious faith. One is how planes fly. The other is how people believe snakes talk.

its still merely faith. even worse for you you dont have free will. your just being made to think things.

find God through the word. test the word the word holds true and one begins to have faith. many a 'atheist set out to disprove the word end up converting.
i was delivered from alcoholism. i stood up from prayer and could feel the whole body change. thats more real to me then you are.


you talk to atoms?
you dont have reasoned inference because you dont have free will your only made to think things..............
definition of snake is "deceitful person"
animals are often used as descriptors.
lord Jesus is sometimes called a lion
satan has been called a dragon

Its okay for me to not have free will as long as it feels like it. Also, i might have free will. I just concluded that I dont have it based on what we know. Doesnt mean its true. Never claimed its true either.

If you wanna be as reasonable as you can, then you can only do one thing: Look at what objective, testifiable evidence there is and draw a conclusion. This is what reason is. It might not always be what truth is in the end, but it was then still reasonable to come to such a conclusion.

As for the snake, correct me if I am wrong, but there were only two humans in Eden, Adam and Eve, so if that snake was a person, then at least it wasnt a human. But lets not talk about that snakeperson, its not of importance anyways.

What I would like to ask you:

Why do you think god made a universe as vast as it is if we are the center of his creation? Why cant we even see most of it, why cant we reach 99,999999999% of it? What is its purpose if god made it? I am not trying to say there is no god because of the universe, I just wanna know what you as a believer think why it is there if god, the creator made it? Why are we not even as big as a fracture of a proton compared to just the observable universe, let alone the whole thing?

This post was edited by Saurod on Jul 29 2025 08:32am

nice to hear that you think you know something while in the state of no free will

scripture is testable. it sweetly follows the scientific process. observable testable repeatable.
observable- we see a bible.
testable- we read the scripture become convinced
repeatable- happens every generation

"person" doesnt exclusively mean "human"

Revelation 4:11
The universe was created for God's own good pleasure. According to biblical texts, such as Revelation 4:11, "You are worthy, our Lord and God, to receive glory and honor and power, for you created all things, and by your will they were created and have their being". This reflects God's delight in His creation, as He takes pleasure in everything He does, including the universe itself. The creation of humanity in God's image further emphasizes this purpose, as we are made to reflect His glory and relationship with Him. Ultimately, God's joy is found in humanity's existence and their ability to know and love Him

You clearly dont know what scientific process means.

God's pleasure playground is pretty dark and empty I gotta say. But to each their own I guess.

This post was edited by Saurod on Jul 29 2025 11:49am