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Jul 25 2025 08:00am
^ferdia The French have no political, economical and Military clout. Just take what they say as bullshit.


i dont disagree with this sentiment.

also, poor pawel wanting to scream and rage, like so many of us, but instead turning the other cheek. there is a lesson in there somewhere.

meanwhile Isreal will call this alternative facts. To reiterate this is a joint statement from:

BBC
Reuters
AFP
and AP

The odd ones out here are Reuters and AP that would have historically have been seen as the media wing of the US block.



and not to be outdone:



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Jul 25 2025 09:52am
Since when are body counts a moral compass?


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Here is a Pro-Israeli video.

Critically, rather then deny that there are babies starving to death, the narrative is - its Hamas Fault.
(i seriously think they need to consider hiring better PR management, i.e. deny its happening, dont say they deserve it, bad optics you know?

The notion of saying "Release the hostages. Until then, Starve away" is shocking. (Congressman Randy Fine said this).



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Here is a Pro-Israeli video.

Critically, rather then deny that there are babies starving to death, the narrative is - its Hamas Fault.
(i seriously think they need to consider hiring better PR management, i.e. deny its happening, dont say they deserve it, bad optics you know?

The notion of saying "Release the hostages. Until then, Starve away" is shocking. (Congressman Randy Fine said this).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnCSwYL2SbQ


I think we can recognize a few things-

  • Its not a full famine yet. The start of one, maybe, but nowhere near the desperation of historical mass casualty famines
  • Israel is willing to provide enough food for all Gazans, calculated to the caloric level by population, and have a thousand trucks of aid staged and need to be unloaded
  • The holdup comes on the Gazan side, with Hamas threatening trucks, the UN refusing to distribute while its not secure and Israel refusing to give supplies to Hamas to hoard/distribute
  • There are worse famines going on around the world right now
  • EU media have cried wolf and claimed a famine is about to kill millions for over a year now, losing all credibility and the ability to warn if an actual famine ensues.
  • Hamas is purposefully trying to disrupt aid, whether to assert its control and thwart rivals, or build PR in the west, or both


That puts us in the ever so fragile status quo of imminent disaster we've been in. Its not self sustaining and could easily be disrupted one way or the other
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straight up demonic

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Let's all remember the children of Iraq.


In that now-iconic interview, veteran journalist Lesley Stahl questioned Albright – then the US ambassador to the United Nations – on the catastrophic effect the rigorous US sanctions imposed after Iraq’s invasion of Kuwait had on the Iraqi population.

“We have heard that half a million [Iraqi] children have died. I mean, that is more children than died in Hiroshima,” asked Stahl, “And, you know, is the price worth it?”

“I think that is a very hard choice,” Albright answered, “but the price, we think, the price is worth it.

With this response, Albright showed that she sees innocent Iraqi children as nothing more than disposable fodder in a conflict between the US administration and the Iraqi leadership.

She demonstrated, with no room left for any doubt, that she had no humanity – that she cannot and shall never be described as “a force for goodness, grace, and decency”.

I remember sanctions era Iraq very well. It was almost impossible to maintain contact with family members and friends in the country, as telephone services remained very limited. When I visited Iraq, to my shock I saw even the most basic products – like milk – could not be found in local markets. The people were hungry and hopeless.

Indeed, the US imposed sanctions on Iraq to punish Saddam Hussein’s regime, but it was innocent civilians, not the regime officials who suffered. The sanctions pushed the already struggling masses into deeper poverty, but only marginally affected the rich, widening the wealth gap in the country. As poor Iraqis struggled to put food on their tables, President Hussein and his inner circle maintained their lavish lifestyles. Despite crippling sanctions, the president managed to build 80 to 100 luxury palaces during his tenure.

By 2003, it is estimated that nearly 1.5 million Iraqis, primarily children, had died as a direct consequence of sanctions.

And this devastating toll was hardly surprising, or unexpected.

The sanctions, implemented in August 1990 by the UN Security Council Resolution 661, included a total financial and trade embargo. Not only was Iraq barred from exporting oil (its main income source) on the world market for several years, but it was also prevented from importing products from abroad.

This ban included healthcare equipment and medications, which translated into immeasurable suffering for common Iraqis, but placed no immediate pressure on Hussein’s regime.

“Requested radiotherapy equipment, chemotherapy drugs and analgesics are consistently blocked by United States and British advisers [to the Sanctions Committee at the UN],” explained Professor Karol Sikora, then chief of the cancer programme of the World Health Organization, in a 1999 article published in the British Medical Journal. “There seems to be a rather ludicrous notion that such agents could be converted into chemical or other weapons.”

According to UNICEF, the UN Children’s Fund, the death rate of children below five crossed 4,000 a month due to the lack of food and basic medications caused by the sanctions – that is up to 200 babies and toddlers dying avoidable deaths a day.

Several UN officials resigned over the years in protest at this disastrous, ineffective and murderous sanctions policy, but Albright, the “passionate force for freedom, democracy and human rights”, thought it was all “worth it”.

To make matters worse, 13 years after the sanctions were first implemented to pressure the Iraqi regime, the US opted to invade the oil-rich country anyway under the pretence that Hussein managed to amass weapons of mass destruction despite the embargo. The years of suffering were for nothing – the sanctions had achieved nothing other than devastating millions of Iraqis who had no say over the actions of those ruling over them.

So, before you write or repost articles about Albright and how wonderful it is to see women pushing boundaries and breaking glass ceilings in politics, take a minute to learn what she chose to do with the power she had – how she supported the devastation and suffering of my people.

Today, with sanctions imposed on Venezuela still causing thousands of deaths among the country’s poorest, and demands for more stringent sanctions on Russia getting louder, we cannot afford to whitewash Albright’s mistakes.

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Jul 25 2025 09:32pm
~2000dead Israelis
~60000dead Palestinians

Isreal is pushing the spring really hard my fren


I mean... What point do we have discussing death tolls like it makes one side worse than the other?

Gaza is in the find out stage of fucking around.
I'd do worse to people that killed my family.

If you wouldn't you're a coward.
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I mean... What point do we have discussing death tolls like it makes one side worse than the other?

Gaza is in the find out stage of fucking around.
I'd do worse to people that killed my family.

If you wouldn't you're a coward.


so you are justifying oct 7th? that was a direct response to israel's barbaric occupation - or as you put it, "doing worse to people that killed their families"
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so you are justifying oct 7th? that was a direct response to israel's barbaric occupation - or as you put it, "doing worse to people that killed their families"


Retaliation for which occupation? 😂

They've been going tit for tat over there since they could pick up stones and bash each other's brains in.

This didn't start with the creation of a Jewish state in 1947 and it didn't start with the Balfour agreement in 1917 so I don't want to hear about how this was funded by so and so, Lord Rothschild this, USA that.

That area was unstable well before the Ottoman Empire had control of it and it's STILL beyond repair over 100 years later, it was in disarray for a thousand years before that 😂

The Quran, the Tarah, the Bible all showcase the turmoils of the middle east and nothing has changed since.

I'm not justifying October 7th I'm saying there's no score to be kept as they've both been killing each other since before any of us can remember.
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Retaliation for which occupation? 😂

They've been going tit for tat over there since they could pick up stones and bash each other's brains in.

This didn't start with the creation of a Jewish state in 1947 and it didn't start with the Balfour agreement in 1917 so I don't want to hear about how this was funded by so and so, Lord Rothschild this, USA that.

I'm not justifying October 7th I'm saying there's no score to be kept as they've both been killing each other since before any of us can remember.
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i get it, its complex. but if you are true to your point, then Palestinians essentially deserve to inflict even worse on Israel, right? considering the disproportionate amount of violence and inhumane treatment, hundreds of thousands of innocent people killed and tens of thousands more being starved to death.
i cant think of worse treatment than what the Israelis are inflicting on Palestinians right now. its the worst thing human beings have ever done to each other
how much lower can humans sink?
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