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#321
Jul 24 2025 10:32pm
Quote (TiStuff @ Jul 23 2025 11:19pm)
you went off topic from the subjective right into the objective thinking you were daddy-0 but instead became cornholio, your atheist pride takes a big ol L

you dont read articles or watch vids so who da fug are you to make an assessment concerning what process best explains living systems.


You think I dont read stuff or watch stuff because I dont watch YOUR stuff in a discussion thread in which no one but you posts any videos? Sounds like your typical standard for evidence.

I dont have any "antheist pride" by the way.

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Jul 24 2025 10:32pm
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You cannot believe in God until you believe in yourself.
He is an atheist who does not believe in himself. The old religion said that he was an atheist who did not believe in God. The new religion says that he is the atheist who does not believe in himself.

"You have to grow from the inside out. None can teach you, none can make you spiritual. There is no other teacher but your own soul."

We are what our thoughts have made us; so take care about what you think. Words are secondary. Thoughts live; they travel far.

All differences in this world are of degree, and not of kind, because oneness is the secret of everything.

The moment I have realized God sitting in the temple of every human body, the moment I stand in reverence before every human being and see God in him - that moment I am free from bondage, everything that binds vanishes, and I am free.

The Vedanta recognizes no sin it only recognizes error. And the greatest error, says the Vedanta is to say that you are weak, that you are a sinner, a miserable creature, and that you have no power and you cannot do this and that.

As different streams having different sources all mingle their waters in the sea, so different tendencies, various though they appear, crooked or straight, all lead to God.

May He who is the Brahman of the Hindus, the Ahura-Mazda of the Zoroastrians, the Buddha of the Buddhists, the Jehovah of the Jews, the Father in Heaven of the Christians give strength to you to carry out your noble idea.

^Saurod all quotes from Swami Vivekananda for you to dwell on :mellow:


Good old bla bla boy continues to grace us with his wisdom.
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#323
Jul 25 2025 05:30am
Quote (Saurod @ Jul 24 2025 09:32pm)
You think I dont read stuff or watch stuff because I dont watch YOUR stuff in a discussion thread in which no one but you posts any videos? Sounds like your typical standard for evidence.

I dont have any "antheist pride" by the way.


ya thats what i believe. since you dont have time even for the shortest of articles and vids its just reasonable to believe that your full of cit and just want to play gibberish games.

ya you do. it talks a monumental pride to say "no God"
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#324
Jul 25 2025 05:41am
Quote (TiStuff @ Jul 25 2025 01:30pm)
ya thats what i believe. since you dont have time even for the shortest of articles and vids its just reasonable to believe that your full of cit and just want to play gibberish games.

ya you do. it talks a monumental pride to say "no God"


No, its you who hasnt got time or respect for a healthy discussion. If you had time and would honor mine like I honor yours, you'd sit down, watch your videos, pick the parts that are important to you and write down a proper response with it.

It takes a monumental pride to say no god, I agree, which is not something I ever said btw.

You know what also takes a monumental pride? Saying there is a god. You are applying double standard over and over again.

You put an absolute on an unprovable claim and also claim that I say there is no god without me ever saying that. Embarrassing.

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Jul 25 2025 05:44am
Quote (Saurod @ Jul 25 2025 04:41am)
No, its you who hasnt got time or respect for a healthy discussion. If you had time and would honor mine like I honor yours, you'd sit down, watch your videos, pick the parts that are important to you and write down a proper response with it.

It takes a monumental pride to say no god, I agree, which is not something I ever said btw.

You know what also takes a monumental pride? Saying there is a god. You are applying double standard over and over again.

You put an absolute on an unprovable claim and also claim that I say there is no god without me ever saying that. Embarrassing.


ok lets clear things up then. what do you believe?
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Jul 25 2025 06:00am
Quote (TiStuff @ Jul 25 2025 01:44pm)
ok lets clear things up then. what do you believe?


If your claim is "there is a god." then thats a claim that cannot be refuted, just like a million other claims I could make. Claiming something is true which cant be refuted is not equally valid as the opposite tho.

If I tell you theres an invisible, immaterial, silent dragon sitting on the roof of my house, you cant refute it. Doesnt mean believing it is as reasonable as not believing it.

So I am not saying you are necessarily wrong, but I say theres no reason to believe it. Not a single one. I dont believe you doesnt mean that I know the opposite is true, it only means exactly what I said. I dont believe you.

Hope that helps.
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Jul 25 2025 06:25am
Quote (Saurod @ Jul 25 2025 05:00am)
If your claim is "there is a god." then thats a claim that cannot be refuted, just like a million other claims I could make. Claiming something is true which cant be refuted is not equally valid as the opposite tho.

If I tell you theres an invisible, immaterial, silent dragon sitting on the roof of my house, you cant refute it. Doesnt mean believing it is as reasonable as not believing it.

So I am not saying you are necessarily wrong, but I say theres no reason to believe it. Not a single one. I dont believe you doesnt mean that I know the opposite is true, it only means exactly what I said. I dont believe you.

Hope that helps.


actually this is what you said in #302
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Yes, some people need actual evidence to believe extraordinary claims, I know you cant understand that.
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#328
Jul 25 2025 06:42am
Quote (Saurod @ Jul 4 2025 08:27am)
Change my mind is a funny phrase to say without free will, I admit that*lol

So, before I will challenge you to discuss this with me, let me say that it doesnt matter if you are religious or not. REAL free will in the sense of the word or in the sense of the meaning we give the phrase doesnt exist from both perspectives in my opinion.


you had the free will to make this post did you not?
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#329
Jul 25 2025 06:58am
Quote (TiStuff @ Jul 25 2025 02:25pm)
actually this is what you said in #302


Yes? Do you feel like one contradicts the other or what?
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#330
Jul 25 2025 07:00am
Quote (hunter_1 @ Jul 25 2025 02:42pm)
you had the free will to make this post did you not?


I dont know, maybe. maybe not, but I couldnt find a way that leads to free will if I look at what we have to work with. Nothing explains free will. If you disagree, explain it.
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