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Jul 21 2025 05:17pm
To be fair, almost everybody in 2013 underestimated how far the woke fervor would go. In 2013, it was far more reasonable to treat the nascent woke movement as a nuissance not to be taken too seriously, while we know better now, know that these zealots try to tear down the fabric of our society and need to be reined in.


That being said, the name of the Washington football team is a really low stakes issue, particularly since it was one of the more genuinely racist team names.
My bigger gripe with how Trump handles this isn't that he's contradicting his own ancient tweets, it's with the authoritarian threats he's making.


How are your views you write here meaningfully differentiated from woke?

This is literally woke. Calling everything racist and using it as an excuse to destroy cultural heritage. Demonizing political opposition using meaningless cult buzzwords such as "authoritarian", as if the President doesnt have authority?

Give me a break man. The fact that you're still carrying water for the cult astounds me, assuming you're actually ethnically German
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Jul 21 2025 05:45pm
Reee away my friend.


the left will always be remembered as crazy kook masked people bugged out eyes harassing people trying to go about their daily business


This post was edited by TiStuff on Jul 21 2025 05:48pm
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How are your views you write here meaningfully differentiated from woke?

This is literally woke. Calling everything racist and using it as an excuse to destroy cultural heritage. Demonizing political opposition using meaningless cult buzzwords such as "authoritarian", as if the President doesnt have authority?

Give me a break man. The fact that you're still carrying water for the cult astounds me, assuming you're actually ethnically German


Trump literally threatened to revoke the construction permit for their new stadium if they don't change their name. That's a genuinely authoritarian (and petty) move by Trump.
Likewise, I'm not calling everything racist or condoning the destruction of cultural heritage, I'm pointing out that the Washington football team - unlike for example the Chiefs - have no meaningful connection to native tribes. And that's on top of "redskins" being a far more offensive term than 'chiefs'.


My views are based on the merits of the case while you are just reflexively partisan.
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Jul 21 2025 06:30pm
Idk if DTJ Jr. notices that JD Vance is memed into this lol.. hilarious either way



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Jul 21 2025 06:34pm
Trump literally threatened to revoke the construction permit for their new stadium if they don't change their name. That's a genuinely authoritarian (and petty) move by Trump.
Likewise, I'm not calling everything racist or condoning the destruction of cultural heritage, I'm pointing out that the Washington football team - unlike for example the Chiefs - have no meaningful connection to native tribes. And that's on top of "redskins" being a far more offensive term than 'chiefs'.


My views are based on the merits of the case while you are just reflexively partisan.


Keep saying that to whoever you're seeking approval from I guess

The sophistry is transparent

Pro tip: Don't use cult language if you want to trick people into thinking you're not part of the cult

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Jul 21 2025 06:39pm
Trump literally threatened to revoke the construction permit for their new stadium if they don't change their name. That's a genuinely authoritarian (and petty) move by Trump.
Likewise, I'm not calling everything racist or condoning the destruction of cultural heritage, I'm pointing out that the Washington football team - unlike for example the Chiefs - have no meaningful connection to native tribes. And that's on top of "redskins" being a far more offensive term than 'chiefs'.


My views are based on the merits of the case while you are just reflexively partisan.


perhaps, but, wonder what kind of coercion fraud lefties applied to change the name the first time? he could have a back room deal. hey? you guys want your original name back? heres a game plan?

remember after the 2020 steal trump said "i will run again and if i win i will shove it up their azz.) like gulf of america? who really cares? but it gets the left REEEing

also part of the war fare. load down his enemies with a bunch of superfluous bull chit

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perhaps, but, wonder what kind of coercion fraud lefties applied to change the name the first time? he could have a back room deal. hey? you guys want your original name back? heres a game plan?

remember after the 2020 steal trump said "i will run again and if i win i will shove it up their azz.) like gulf of america? who really cares? but it gets the left REEEing

also part of the war fare. load down his enemies with a bunch of superfluous bull chit


Them: "woke has to be stopped!"

Also them: "stop stopping them! What they're doing is good actually!"

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Jul 22 2025 01:52pm
Them: "woke has to be stopped!"

Also them: "stop stopping them! What they're doing is good actually!"

:bonk:

The president of the United States should have better things to do with his time than throwing the weight of the federal government around to force a local sports team to change its freaking name, but what do I know.
When it comes to the authoritarian dimension, I would argue that using this kind of leverage to force the president's will onto others is a move which should only be used in pursuit of meaningful policy goals, rather than singular, symbolic, petty causes.

And like I've said: while the lefty activists cry wolf all the time, the Redskins are a case where the woke criticism at least had some tiny grain of truth to it. Not enough to warrant the original name change if you ask me, but it still doesn't make for the ideal case to symbolically fight back against wokism.




To be perfectly clear: I would (very marginally) prefer the Commanders to change their name back to Redskins, but this goal is not nearly important enough to justify the federal government breaking a fly on the wheel like that. It isn't even important enough to warrant the president's attention full stop. If this stance makes me a "woke cuck" in your eyes, so be it.


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Jul 22 2025 02:25pm
Redskins was a good name. They chose to listen to a segment of woke whites and some natives over a significant other part of natives that had no issue with the name or were pro. You can't appease everybody and if you try you end up with what current movies have become. Politically 'safe and inclusive' movies that have to have the entire spectrum of lgbbq or races or conveyer belt marvel slop that's shallow and honestly unwatchable.

This post was edited by ofthevoid on Jul 22 2025 02:27pm
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Jul 22 2025 02:41pm
Redskins was a good name. They chose to listen to a segment of woke whites and some natives over a significant other part of natives that had no issue with the name or were pro. You can't appease everybody and if you try you end up with what current movies have become. Politically 'safe and inclusive' movies that have to have the entire spectrum of lgbbq or races or conveyer belt marvel slop that's shallow and honestly unwatchable.


I think it's a mistake as well. I'd like to see more diverse team names like The Holy Popes, or The Desert Prophets, or LGBTQ69'ers
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