It is my belief that Israel wants to settle northern gaza. i guess i will need to save some of these nuggets being posted for 6 months time sothat we can revisit these gems.

also while I dont have the will to read alot of these comments, because its so easy to refute, here is a nugget:

94% of Settler violence claims against Palestinians in the west bank are closed without charge.
of the 6% investigated, only 3% are indicted.
of the 3% indicted, these are invariably vacated or dismissed.
between 2005-2021 only 4% of criminal cases involving "alleged" settler violence progressed to charges.
and finally, reports suggest that less than 1 % of complaints between 2017–2021 ended in conviction.

This post was edited by ferdia on Jul 21 2025 06:13am

Now ask three same questions about the PLO and Hamas

What you believe irrelevant

This post was edited by Many_Names on Jul 21 2025 06:24am

Hamas does not control anything, and neither does the PLO. so, your attempts at comparing them to how Israel administers the rule of law in the West Bank is not well grounded. Thats not to say one could not compare them, except that the comparison is very weak. However, if you want to compare Israel to Hamas, you do you. I seem to recall when a non israeli makes comparisons you get quite vexed.
also, telling someone that they are irrelevant, is a really good metaphor for how you have dealt with genuine challenges to how israel operates - You appear to believe that you are right and everyone else is wrong, a microcosm for the overarching Israeli sentiment as related to Gaza and the West Bank.

This post was edited by ferdia on Jul 21 2025 07:13am

Fair point about settler violence. There are definitely cases that should have been handled more firmly. No argument there.

But if you’re going to talk about accountability, it has to apply across the board. You cannot demand Israeli investigations while brushing aside the fact that Hamas and other groups openly celebrate targeting civilians and never face consequences.

Israel is not perfect. No country is. But it has courts, media, internal criticism, and yes, sometimes failure too. That is still a world apart from what happens on the other side, where violence is policy.

This post was edited by Many_Names on Jul 21 2025 07:51am

What i see as relevant with hamas.. They were shot at when marched peacefuly...pre 0ct 7 they were completely ignored by Israel and Washington with any negotiations for prisoner releases and land with settlers..As far as arresting people doing crimes..No Idea how do you arrest someone fighting a invading army when they see zero justice of their own? Sure any violence is wrong ... But when settlers get away with it 100% of the time.. and peaceful marches get shot at and killed ... What is left for a people to do? peaceful protest, negotiations denied. What is left? martyrism I guess And they knew that going in on oct 7...It actually working this time Israel has woke the world to it's crime's

This post was edited by doomchaser on Jul 21 2025 07:59am

This is NOT a true story, but its a good metaphor.

When the law fails you, the law must accept the consequences.

Because Hamas felt “ignored” and negotiations didn’t go their way, they were entitled to butcher families in their homes, rape women, kidnap baby, his brother their parents and other civilians into tunnels? That’s your logic?

At the same time, if there are Israeli settlers committing violence against Palestinians, they should be investigated and prosecuted. Justice must apply to everyone. But let’s not pretend that a failure to indict someone for vandalism or assault gives anyone a green light to slaughter innocents.

Hamas targeted teenagers at a music festival, babies in their cribs, and elderly civilians in their homes. This was not about land or negotiations, it was about erasing Jews from the map.

You can criticize Israeli policy. You can demand accountability. That is legitimate. But once you try to frame October 7 as a justified response, you are no longer speaking for human rights. You are defending terror.

not talking about Jews ...Besides claiming to be the jews from the land when mostly they are not. You don't get to say all Jews.. Plenty of Jews stand against the crimes going on in Israel and are against the idea of Zionism... Not Justifying the actions of oct 7.. Just saying it was the actions of a desperate people. After other avenues for a chance of justice was refused them.. What they should of done was make more peaceful actions while getting killed by the IDF maybe? Did not seem to be working ? turning the other chick is not for everyone I guess

Agreed. Only those who eat turd sandwiches would gobble up the pathetic rehtoric. A fanatic ethnocentric state going to cleanse

This post was edited by RedFromWinter on Jul 22 2025 06:48am

Negotiating what exactly?


By “peaceful,” are you referring to the thousands of rockets fired at civilians? Or the mass shootings and kidnappings?

You’re trying to repackage a brutal massacre as desperation. That’s not nuance, that’s justification.

And if Jews aren’t from Judea, then where exactly are they from? Why do you think they’re called Jews in the first place?


This post was edited by Many_Names on Jul 22 2025 08:00am