You’re repeating claims like they’re facts but skipping the part where actual evidence is supposed to show up.

Saying Hamas can’t run propaganda because they live in tunnels is absurd. They have a full media network, foreign backers, control over Gaza’s health ministry, and they’ve used civilian deaths as a PR weapon for years. This is not a conspiracy, it’s their strategy.

A few Israeli academics or ex-officials using the word genocide doesn’t make it legally true. There’s no global consensus. Most serious legal experts agree that the threshold for genocide is intent to destroy a people, not tragic civilian casualties in war. You don’t prove genocide by quoting opinions.

The “soldiers” and “doctors” you refer to are almost always anonymous or connected to activist groups with clear agendas. If there are credible cases, they should be investigated. Israel has prosecuted its own before. Hamas never has, not once, despite openly filming its crimes.

You talk about lack of independent media, but reporters from Al Jazeera, AP, Reuters, and multiple NGOs are operating in Gaza. What you really mean is that Israel doesn’t let unrestricted access during live combat. No army does. Not the US, not Russia, not Ukraine.

As for the clinic, the deaths were a tragedy, but in war a mistaken strike is not automatically a war crime. You need to prove intent to kill civilians. If that’s your standard, the US should be charged with genocide every time a drone strike hits the wrong target.

And claiming that Israel Katz is preparing a concentration camp is just dishonest. He talked about moving civilians out of combat zones, not building extermination camps. Using that term casually is offensive and manipulative. You can disagree with policy without hijacking Holocaust terminology.

So again, if you have actual, verified proof of systemic war crimes or genocide, bring it. If not, stop tossing around slogans. Justice needs facts.

This post was edited by Many_Names on Jul 21 2025 01:49am

Goebbels would be impressed by the current propaganda machine over there.

your being dishonest again, no one said extermination camp, you did. there is a distinct difference between a concentration camp and a death camp. learn history. if you are goading us into making this distinction and using that to suggest that there is nothing wrong with Israeli plans for a concentration camp well, honestly, i am just going to roll my eyes. again.

Concentration Camp vs Death Camp

Concentration Camp

A concentration camp is a facility where large groups of civilians, political prisoners, or perceived enemies of the state are detained, usually without trial. The term originated during the Spanish-Cuban War (1896) and the Second Boer War (1899–1902), where civilians were placed in camps to isolate them from guerrilla fighters. Nazi Germany operated concentration camps as early as 1933 (e.g., Dachau), targeting political opponents, Jews, Roma, disabled people, LGBTQ individuals, and others. Initially, these camps were primarily for forced labor, detention, and persecution.

Death Camp (Extermination Camp)

A death camp or extermination camp refers to facilities explicitly designed for mass murder, especially during the Holocaust. Nazi Germany created six main death camps — including Auschwitz-Birkenau, Treblinka, Sobibor, and Belzec — with the primary function of executing people (mostly Jews) systematically using gas chambers, shootings, starvation, and more.



This post was edited by ferdia on Jul 21 2025 04:00am

You are playing word games to avoid the real issue
The term “concentration camp” is loaded for a reason. He used it knowing exactly the emotional and historical weight it carries, especially when talking about Israel. Now that I pushed him back, you are falling on technical definitions to justify it.

If the goal was to describe temporary relocation zones or holding areas, he could have used terms like “evacuation centers” or “civilian zones.” But he did not. He chose “concentration camp” to provoke and to paint Israel in the worst possible light.

So do not act surprised when people call that out. It is not honest language. It is an attempt to win an argument by emotional framing, not by facts.



This post was edited by Many_Names on Jul 21 2025 04:59am

No the word concentration camp was not dishonest language it's unfortuantely very honest language.


https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c8rp31lk7mzo

It's no longer a discussion whether it's a genocide. It's now an undisputable fact. Failing to recognize this should be as blatantly absurb as denying the holocaust itself. Now we need it to stop and find a solution to move forward. The world after world war two said "never again" . It didn't say "your turn".

Calling a temporary relocation zone inside Gaza a “concentration camp” is pure spin. No one’s being sent to gas chambers. No one’s being deported outside the Strip. It’s wartime screening in a combat zone not genocide.

Quoting one pro Hamas lawyer doesn’t make it a crime against humanity. And comparing this to the Holocaust is offensive, not persuasive.

You want the war to end? Tell Hamas to surrender and release the hostages. Everything else is noise.

I'm quoting Israels defence minister saying he wants to make a camp where the detained cannot leave.

give me a minute, the popcorn is almost cooked. ok im on the couch, lets watch this.

They are not allowed to go back to the north temporarily
If this doesnt make sense its because you simply dont want it to make sense

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/07/08/middleeast/israel-rafah-ruins-city-gaza-intl-latam

It doesn't make sense to me because it doesn't make sense to Bibi or Katz. They want them gone. All of them.