You forgot India. Also manufacturing is moving from China to India and Bangladesh.
In 20 years time if there is not world War. I m sure there will be another Trump like figure who will win elections because India taking away our Jobs..
Yeah India is a big one as well, I have seen preference in the accounting and finance world given to Malaysia and Philippines thus far due to higher quality, not sure if that is the actual case or not, but I have also received many outsource packages as part of various finance committees and the Indian ones are always the lowest of quality.
Certainly they seem to dominate tech and customer service though.
Hurts my soul to be honest, It was relatively simple to carve out a good life for yourself with a relatively easy path, BCom into career that paid for your CFA or CA and you were set for life. Now the struggle is to get into a career as a level 1.
Trump and Modi made the deal because China after making virtually trillions off their own version of slave labor actually challenged USA. Big mistake for Xi and India was happy to be given the opportunity in any way/shape/form "leap frog" China on the world stage.
Best deal for Americans. You get the smarter Hindus on VISA'S to America like you've been doing for decades while strategically dropping the low caste muslim hindus in Canada and Europe.
When you fuck with America get ready to pay prices. Everyone talked shit about America the last FOREVER and yet everytime it's US who put everyone else in their place.
Big kids table is US/China/India/Russia.
Little kids table. Everyone else.
If you don't see it that way you are being played. Shout out to
a Singaporean whose country has been able to FOONAGEL both systems simultaneously while creating a vast amount of wealth and one of the coolest places on Earth.
&&& Yes 1st world problems are not real problems they are things rich people talk about over coffee or dinner or online on a gaming sub forum.
I've been to rural southern India and my God what those people would do to even have a single moment in 1st world privilege.
Pathetically mundane the trivial issues 1st world people bitch about.
Ever seen two starving dogs rip a part a starving cat?
Ever seen children starving at a train station and no one helping them as they wither away and die as 10,000 people attempt to fit on a train to get to a job that pays them virtually nothing.
These are people who have actually struggled everyday of their life. No one who has ever posted on this sub forum can say the same.
Being homeless in a 1st world country and eating out of the garbage is better then the conditions of the 90% 3rd world shitholes.
We can argue about Capitalism vs Communism but just remember America and China made that deal so they both could enrich themselves.
Trump calling the kettle black on China was the most based statement in history. How could any American whose seen "made in china" on virtually every product they use actually rationally think are relations would sour?
Bad decision for Xi Xin Pings people and a great decision for Modhi because Indians will work for a penny a day because it's more then nothing. Not kidding and good luck trying to argue a competitive wage with an Indian who can do 2x you can for 1/20th the cost. Basic math people.
edit: I worked in software logistics for a subsidiary company of Caterpillar a fortune 500 company. I had no degree but my "Hindu mentor" taught me everything I needed to know to land a job on his dev team in 3-6 months to land an 80k/ salary job which I quit shortly after because it was too boring.
He tossed out peoples applications with "Masters of Computer Science" if they couldn't "be socially adaptive" and were too "socially awkward" most "coders/programmers/IT can be".
So he's a project manager for Caterpillar one of the biggest companies and he's sub contracting Indians to do work for him at 10/hr and they do the same skill work as an engineer who wants to be paid over 100/hr
This is all heavily embedded in all major US corporations it should be apparent even to smaller subsidiary companies and smaller countries too at this point.
The whole thing is 1st world people want this wage and standard of living to go up while the 3rd world continues to burn. How rational is it for people like us to expect our standard of life to get better as populations explode worldwide and the whole "infinite growth on a finite planet" becomes ever more blatantly clear. Mad max world anyone? Whose the best positioned?
Big kids table.
This post was edited by SwamiVivekananda on Jul 21 2025 09:00am