Quote (Saurod @ Jul 15 2025 09:55am)

Since the scientific method is the only currently known method for us humans to come to conclusions of truth, it is true without any way to disprove it. Well, unless you found another method to prove stuff of course.

Quote (majorblood @ Jul 15 2025 06:56pm)

you haven't demonstrated why he must cause an event to have knowledge of it

Quote (Saurod @ Jul 15 2025 09:59am)

Yes I have. If he didnt cause an event, he cant have knowledge of it unless someone else caused it and told him about it. Thats simple logic. Thats how logic works. If this is not enough for you, then theres nothing you should and could ever discuss about ever again.

Quote (majorblood @ Jul 15 2025 06:57pm)

"Since the scientific method is the only currently known method for us humans to come to conclusions of truth,"

prove this scientifically

nothing what you said is scientifically proven.

Quote (Saurod @ 15 Jul 2025 11:38)

If it "simply doesnt follow", explain to me how one can know something beforehand without being the reason for what they know will happen. One example. Please. You love to sound smart, but wheres the actual argument?Tell me how its possible, thats all I am asking.
God omnipotence follows the logically possible, so explain to me how he knows what I will do tomorrow without being the initiator. Thanks in advance.

Quote (majorblood @ Jul 15 2025 07:03pm)

No, that's a false dilemma. His knowledge isn't 'acquired' by observation, nor does it have to be causal. God's knowledge can be a perfect, inherent awareness of our free choices as they will occur. Knowledge doesn't equal causation.

Quote (Saurod @ Jul 15 2025 10:03am)

A trillion things arent scientifically proven. Whats your point?

Quote (Saurod @ 15 Jul 2025 07:23)

You think consciousness is not scientific because its not fully explained? Thats the same leap others have made here before. We have no current full explanation for it therefor: Metaphysics.
Thats not how it works. Many scientific fields are actively studying consciousness. Neuoscience, cognitive science and psychology for example.

Consciousness is a real, scientific field of study, but it’s not fully understood or explained yet. Many theories exist, but there’s no final consensus. That does NOT mean, its not scientific.

As long as nature can affect consciousness its fair game for science, thats for sure. We can "turn it off" so to say, we can alter it and so on.

There was a point at which we couldnt explain electricity. That did not mean it was supernatural or metaphysical all of a sudden.

Quote (El1te @ 10 Jul 2025 16:47)

The guy is just a troll or a supremely unintelligent and arrogant bigot.

I explained to him in very clear terms how science has already fundamentally disproven determinism (or lack of true free will), and his only response is "science is just a theory"

Megaclown

Quote (SwamiVivekananda @ Jul 15 2025 07:04pm)

I'll cut right to it with you go read Swami Vivekananda's complete works volume 1 if you want to know the answer about causation.

Once again stop acknowledging only the Abrahamic God as the God you are refuting. Do you notice that you have a predetermined bias on "God" because you didn't research into Atheism/Buddhism/Hinduism/Sikhism/Zoroastrianism/ETC.

You don't have a full picture of God or Science so stop pretending you know a damn thing about either.

I'll go back and read what you said in previous posts just to show you how you walk around in platitudinal circles and don't know shit about anything.

Also there is no such thing in science or "god" that is ABSOLUTE not a damn thing. Numbers/Symbols were all created by man not the universe and our an evolutional adaptation we gained after going from hunter-gatherer to an agricultural society we began to develop "language/numbers/symbols" as a means to communicate. Like I said research ancient Sanskrit which is the root of all language and you'll experience the truth.

Human beings could never concieve or contemplate the "true reality" which is the "thought free state" that is the only real state of existence everything else is a fanciful illusion or in Sanskrit "maya".

Like I mentioned before that is the deep symbolism behind the story of Adam and Eve in the garden of Eden. Eve bites of the "fruit of knowledge" and becomes separate from "existence/reality/god".

So let me ask you a question ^Saurod do you believe in God the formed or God the formless(hint hint you believe in God the "formed" based on your above statement lol. Because there is a difference that you can't see because you are unread in these philosophical disciplines.

Try harder.