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Jul 14 2025 06:12am
You didn’t ask a neutral question. You implied moral equivalence between an unverified claim and a documented terrorist massacre. That’s not a strawman, that’s exactly what you did. Now you’re trying to hide behind tone and sarcasm instead of defending your point.

If you genuinely think October 7th and Bosnia are comparable, make your case clearly and honestly. Otherwise, stop pretending to be misunderstood when called out on weak analogies and lazy moral relativism.


Go read it again, it's earlier in the thread. 'Stop pretending' ?

This post was edited by RedFromWinter on Jul 14 2025 06:15am
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Jul 14 2025 06:15am
Go read it again, it's earlier in the thread. Stop pretending


I’m not going to go digging through every comment you made in this thread.
If you’re replying to me, then stick to what you actually said to me don’t bring up points you never raised in our exchange.
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Jul 14 2025 06:16am
I’m not going to go digging through every comment you made in this thread.
If you’re replying to me, then stick to what you actually said to me don’t bring up points you never raised in our exchange.


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Jul 14 2025 06:18am
Calling this a “war crime” as if it’s just part of a symmetrical conflict ignores reality. October 7 was not a military engagement, it was a deliberate massacre of civilians. Framing it as just another event in a “war” is an attempt to blur the line between terrorism and warfare…. moral relativism.


I fear that if we don’t call this a war, an existential threat Israel, the only remaining term will be the one already monopolized by the "chosen people". I’ll leave the moral choice to you.
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Jul 14 2025 07:35am
Israel doesn’t use autonomous killer drones. There’s no such thing as a drone that kills without human involvement every drone strike requires oversight, and nothing is targeted without a human giving the final green light.


This isn't true I shared all the patents in this exact thread to prove you wrong and I even told you to watch the Netflix documentary "Killer Robots" if you think the US military hasn't built this technology you are completely ignorant as an Israeli citizen considering we gave you almost all the technology that gives you an advantage in this conflict. Without total US support Israel falters and your war effort fails.

The US military was reprimanded and should've been charged with war crimes for all the predator drone strikes that had ZERO input from a human being. The US was called out on the world stage for it's use throughtout it's escapades in the Middle East. You saying it can't be done is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Research your own military like I did mine. I don't make excuses for my country being the most powerful on Earth militarily and we are the real terrorist. You as an Israeli have to admit the same.

none of the above answers the question. What would genocide on the part of Israel, look like, in your opinion. And then, marry that up with the various definitions of the word.


Genocide on the part of Israel would have been carpet bombing the Gaza strip from October 8th til the 11th. Couple hundred thousand dead and the world cries for a few days/weeks but then it's over. They did not do that which is why it's not a genocide. I said this in this thread when the conflict first started I guess I have to reiterate every point I've made surrounding this conflict.

Major point: No it's not a genocide but Israel is definitely using the same technology the US did to systematically kill these terrorist with impunity no matter the collateral damage.

Think of Obama's statement, "Predator Drones. You will never see it coming" and how the US did the same thing to Isis/Isil/Taliban/etc. and would kill 20 civilians to kill one "important terrorist".

Another area I disagree with Many_Names because for each needless civilian death you create 100 new terrorist. Why do you think George Bush called it the "War on Terror" because terror is a word not a GROUP like you are saying. So the US government and your Israeli government use this term to launch endless assaults against whomever you deem a terrorist(which is anyone by the way according to the Patriot Act).

Major point2: Is what Hamas did on 10/7 absolutely repulsive and disgusting. Yes. This is why the IDF will go to extreme lengths to eliminate every member of Hamas(including the new ones that come up). The IDF in that sense is doing the whole world a great service. Killing the people who would otherwise take great pleasure in killing you a "non-believer".

Why do you think Trump keeps asking all of Europe and the ME, "Hey where's are money for killing off your garbage. We lost Amercan lives defending all of you from these "threats". We used our Air Force, Navy, Army, Marines, Coast Guard, etc.etc. and what did we get out of it all? My friend having PTSD for life because he had to go kill sand niggers in the desert? Had to risk his life in Afganistan because the Middle East is a worse 3rd world shit hole then anywhere on Earth and we as American citizens are sick of doing the heavy lifting in every major conflict. We swing the tides of WW1, WW2, and we will be there to finish the job as WW3 goes kinetic.

The whole idea that any country will abide by the rules of War is also the dumbest thing I've ever heard and is not supported by human history when a war happens all the rules go out the window and it's not til the war is over and the body count is tallied that maybe they consider some "war crimes". A slap on the wrist to entities who run the free world.

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Jul 14 2025 09:25am
I fear that if we don’t call this a war, an existential threat Israel, the only remaining term will be the one already monopolized by the "chosen people". I’ll leave the moral choice to you.


Ah, so now the issue is about the “chosen people” and who gets to use certain terms. That is not moral reasoning, that is resentment dressed up as concern. October 7 was not a metaphor. It was a real and deliberate massacre of civilians. If your focus is on who gets to claim historical language instead of what actually happened, then your priorities are off. The moral choice is simple. Call terrorism what it is, no matter who the victims are.
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Jul 14 2025 09:26am
This isn't true I shared all the patents in this exact thread to prove you wrong and I even told you to watch the Netflix documentary "Killer Robots" if you think the US military hasn't built this technology you are completely ignorant as an Israeli citizen considering we gave you almost all the technology that gives you an advantage in this conflict. Without total US support Israel falters and your war effort fails.

The US military was reprimanded and should've been charged with war crimes for all the predator drone strikes that had ZERO input from a human being. The US was called out on the world stage for it's use throughtout it's escapades in the Middle East. You saying it can't be done is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Research your own military like I did mine. I don't make excuses for my country being the most powerful on Earth militarily and we are the real terrorist. You as an Israeli have to admit the same.



Genocide on the part of Israel would have been carpet bombing the Gaza strip from October 8th til the 11th. Couple hundred thousand dead and the world cries for a few days/weeks but then it's over. They did not do that which is why it's not a genocide. I said this in this thread when the conflict first started I guess I have to reiterate every point I've made surrounding this conflict.

Major point: No it's not a genocide but Israel is definitely using the same technology the US did to systematically kill these terrorist with impunity no matter the collateral damage.

Think of Obama's statement, "Predator Drones. You will never see it coming" and how the US did the same thing to Isis/Isil/Taliban/etc. and would kill 20 civilians to kill one "important terrorist".

Another area I disagree with Many_Names because for each needless civilian death you create 100 new terrorist. Why do you think George Bush called it the "War on Terror" because terror is a word not a GROUP like you are saying. So the US government and your Israeli government use this term to launch endless assaults against whomever you deem a terrorist(which is anyone by the way according to the Patriot Act).

Major point2: Is what Hamas did on 10/7 absolutely repulsive and disgusting. Yes. This is why the IDF will go to extreme lengths to eliminate every member of Hamas(including the new ones that come up). The IDF in that sense is doing the whole world a great service. Killing the people who would otherwise take great pleasure in killing you a "non-believer".

Why do you think Trump keeps asking all of Europe and the ME, "Hey where's are money for killing off your garbage. We lost Amercan lives defending all of you from these "threats". We used our Air Force, Navy, Army, Marines, Coast Guard, etc.etc. and what did we get out of it all? My friend having PTSD for life because he had to go kill sand niggers in the desert? Had to risk his life in Afganistan because the Middle East is a worse 3rd world shit hole then anywhere on Earth and we as American citizens are sick of doing the heavy lifting in every major conflict. We swing the tides of WW1, WW2, and we will be there to finish the job as WW3 goes kinetic.

The whole idea that any country will abide by the rules of War is also the dumbest thing I've ever heard and is not supported by human history when a war happens all the rules go out the window and it's not til the war is over and the body count is tallied that maybe they consider some "war crimes". A slap on the wrist to entities who run the free world.


I never said they don’t exist. I said there is always a human overseeing it before the kill.
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Jul 14 2025 10:23am
Can't get water now. Man Israel just loves killing kids.
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Jul 14 2025 11:17am
To be fair with Israel we did same 150 years ago to indians we also owned slaves...Today we have internet and the world is more informed is all.. Easy to call them out now, when we got away with it back then. to happen when it your generation is hard to handle is all..

just incase you missed this 1 as i posted bomb bomb Iran ..maybe that was a mistake?



This post was edited by doomchaser on Jul 14 2025 11:20am
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Jul 14 2025 03:05pm
Can't get water now. Man Israel just loves killing kids.


And using their own people as fodder.
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