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Jul 13 2025 04:34am
moving on...this is from the BBC:

Children fetching water killed in Israeli strike in Gaza, emergency officials say

Ten people, including six children, have been killed in an Israeli air strike while waiting to fill water containers in central Gaza on Sunday, emergency service officials say. Their bodies were sent to Nuseirat's al-Awda Hospital, which also treated 16 injured people, seven of them children, according to a doctor there. Eyewitnesses said a drone fired a missile at a crowd of people queuing with empty jerry cans next to a water tanker in the heart of the al-Nuseirat refugee camp. The Israeli military has been asked to comment.

Unverified footage shared online after the strike showed bloodied children and lifeless bodies, with screams of panic and desperation. Residents rushed to the scene and transported the wounded using private vehicles and donkey carts. The strike came as Israeli aerial attacks across the Gaza Strip have escalated. A spokesperson for Gaza's Civil Defense Agency said 19 other Palestinians had been killed on Sunday, in three separate strikes on residential buildings in central Gaza and Gaza City. Israel launched a military campaign in Gaza in response to Hamas's cross-border attack on 7 October 2023, in which about 1,200 people were killed and 251 others were taken hostage. At least 57,882 people have been killed in Gaza since then, according to the Hamas-run health ministry.

Most of Gaza's population has been displaced multiple times. More than 90% of homes are estimated to be damaged or destroyed. The healthcare, water, sanitation and hygiene systems have collapsed, and there are shortages of food, fuel, medicine and shelter. This week, for the first time in 130 days, 75,000 litres of fuel was allowed into Gaza - "far from enough to meet the daily needs of the population and vital civilian aid operations", the United Nations said. Nine UN agencies warned on Saturday that Gaza's fuel shortage had reached "critical levels", and if fuel ran out, it would affect hospitals, water systems, sanitation networks and bakeries. "Hospitals are already going dark, maternity, neonatal and intensive care units are failing, and ambulances can no longer move," the UN said.

The BBC is a paradox. it cant talk about the RAF flights over Gaza, but it can report this. a fine line indeed.


emergency officials in Gaza doesnt tell you who was the target they tell you what hamas wants you to know.
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Jul 13 2025 04:54am
emergency officials in Gaza doesnt tell you who was the target they tell you what hamas wants you to know.


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Jul 13 2025 05:14am
The sun is shining, the sky is blue. I see no reason to argue with you on a beautiful day. be well.


There is nothing to argue, the IDF doesn’t deliberately target children.
This is a fact.

The Gaza health ministery wont tell you they were preparing to launch or there were wanted terrorist gatherings at that location.
They will simply state children were killed.
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Jul 13 2025 05:32am
There is nothing to argue, the IDF doesn’t deliberately target children.
This is a fact.

The Gaza health ministery wont tell you they were preparing to launch or there were wanted terrorist gatherings at that location.
They will simply state children were killed.


As I understand it, 7 IDF soldiers have been killed by IED's, some in the north, some in the south, over the last month. I can not find any factual evidence of hamas rockets having killed any Israeli's (unless you are happy to call palestinians an israeli minority?) in the last month, or even in the last 6 months. Hamas carried out an attack on April 6th 2025. While it is suggest a number of people were injured, there were no fatalities.

The Gaza Health Ministry is not in the business of waging war, I will assume you misspoke, or rather, in your world view, anyone in gaza = hamas.

I welcome you refuting all of this but understand I am not seeking arguments today, i am perfectly happy to turn away and leave this thread for a few days if you let me.

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As I understand it, 7 IDF soldiers have been killed by IED's, some in the north, some in the south, over the last month. I can not find any factual evidence of hamas rockets having killed any Israeli's (unless you are happy to call palestinians an israeli minority?) in the last month, or even in the last 6 months. Hamas carried out an attack on April 6th 2025. While it is suggest a number of people were injured, there were no fatalities.

The Gaza Health Ministry is not in the business of waging war, I will assume you misspoke, or rather, in your world view, anyone in gaza = hamas.

I welcome you refuting all of this but understand I am not seeking arguments today, i am perfectly happy to turn away and leave this thread for a few days if you let me.


The Gaza health ministry is part of Hamas so it is in the business of waging war
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Jul 13 2025 11:12am
The Gaza health ministry is part of Hamas so it is in the business of waging war


I must admit I love these nuggets you throw out.

The Gaza Health Ministry is not a military organization. It operates under Hamas governance but fulfills civilian medical and public health functions, ergo NO, it is not in the business of waging war.

thats like saying: the Israeli health ministry is in the business of waging war. Do you agree with this statement, or is it that the Israeli Health Ministry is in the business of providing medical care.

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The jew cries out in pain as he strikes you
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Jul 13 2025 11:17am
I must admit I love these nuggets you throw out.

The Gaza Health Ministry is not a military organization. It operates under Hamas governance but fulfills civilian medical and public health functions, ergo NO, it is not in the business of waging war.

thats like saying: the Israeli health ministry is in the business of waging war. Do you agree with this statement, or is it that the Israeli Health Ministry is in the business of providing medical care.


Israeli health ministry distinguish between civilians and combatabts
In Hamas health ministry every are civilians and children
So it is in the business of war in the propaganda side and it does excellent job.

As for the kids that died today the IDF admitted the mistake and is investigating as unfortunate as it is mistakes does happen in wars.
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Jul 13 2025 11:18am
The jew cries out in pain as he strikes you


Sounds familiar - neo-Nazis used it a lot.
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Jul 13 2025 11:26am
In Hamas health ministry every are civilians and children


Hamastinians, everyone in Gaza, i get it.

Oh this reminds of Ibn Sina Hospital, Jenin (West Bank, Jan 30, 2024) when Israeli commandos, disguised as doctors or wearing women's clothes, conducted a pre-dawn raid on a West Bank hospital, shooting and killing three men—identified by Israeli authorities as “Hamas militants” sleeping in their hospital beds. This is a regular tactic employed by Israel.

Israel has also bombed every hospital, I mean where are people meant to go now that there is no medical aid? This is a tactic, i think the Israeli's borrowed this from their neighbors ?

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