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I think Trump is threaten by a power that is greater than him.
It is complex. I don't want to put in too much opinion on this.

Now this is just my personal opinion. I believe he is on that list. As a matter of fact politicians, businessman, diplomats, foreign dignitaries etc etc you name it you get it are also on the list.
I personally do not believe he went for under aged kids but that is my opinion. I think he will take those that are 21 or above.

Please note, it is extremely common for people who are fairly rich to fool around a bit.
Even non rich people also fool around a a bit.

The difference is the price you pay.

I just hope that this wouldn't affect the world at large. cross fingers.

Everything that happened on the island first happened in Florida. Recently declassified Florida docs from his arrest told how hidden cameras were found and even they believed he was blackmailing people. Yet he was given a very nice deal.

Yes...because Jeffrey " The Math Teacher" Epstien, have very very very powerful people behind his back.
He either did all this willingly or unwillingly... anyways.... we are in a very difficult position.

Because his issue is far more dangerous than your war with Russia, China or Iran etc etc etc..

Whataboutism.

Why whataboutsim. I don't see why is it whataboutsim. You should at least ask me why I think that way. Shouldn't you.
This has got nothing to do with Whataboutism.

This post was edited by Hamsterbaby on Jul 12 2025 08:24pm

Congress has not declared war on any of those countries it's also not relevant to this discussion in anyway

Well I don't think you understand " Whataboutsim " as in this case.
First things first I am not comparing these countries to United States of America because it is pointless or If one is saying look China is genocidal and in return I mention Israel and USA is both genocidal.

Now that is whataboutsim.

To be precise, why is this case far more dangerous. Because if there is a absolute fall out in the United States because of this.
I am almost damn sure, there will be a bi partisan cohesion to start a HOT WAR to distract the general public in USA.

Therefore I think is relevant.

Starting from the collapse of the Soviet Bloc and Warsaw pact up till now. Looking at the wars that America have been involved so on and so forth.
Not only that.

A more recent case including 9/11 and the wars that came.

The sudden sprinkle of Identity politics during Occupy war street and the 10 years of woke LGBTQ plus movement, BLM etc etc .
It is not faraway that I think if the Epstien case threatens both political bodies in USA that they will create something to Distract.

This case is serious enough for powerful political elites to even think about it and allow it to happen. I hope I am wrong.

A simple NATO and US recognizing Taiwan as a sovereign nation will be strong enough to make China react. All heads will turn towards the pacific.
The Epstien case will just fade into the background because it is no longer a imminent threat to American Citizens.

I am not wrong to think this way. This is how America and not just America, but how a lot of nations work. Something serious. Create another more serious situation and everyone just pay their attention on something else.

Just look at our Ukraine thread and recently the Israel thread. Especially the Ukrainian thread that Ferdia created. Nobody pay attention to it anymore, even though recently Russia have been shelling Kiev etc etc.
Nobody is paying as much attention as the Israel thread anymore.

I seriously believe and I hope I am wrong, that if the Epstien situation gets overblown and political elites are put in a position that will threaten their lives....
They will pull something out of their hat.

My two cents worth.

This post was edited by Hamsterbaby on Jul 12 2025 08:44pm

It's understandable to think that way I would not put it past them to try but I do not think this is some thing people will forget about that easy. We have had multiple world events happen since and the interest in this case has never faded. Promises were made and pressure needs to continue to be applied until we get answers. If they want to try and endanger lives to make it go away they will only lose more support in the future.

But if they do, you know it is going to be horrible.
But let's put it this way, you might not put it past you, a lot of MAGA, Republicans and even the left and progressive left who are absolutely against such Pedo behavior will not put it past them.

But in a so called " democracy " the majority wins. Take this for example if the both the left and right coalition manage to destroy or emasculate for example here " China ". They will be heroes.
A lot of things will be forgotten, they might even pull out a few lower level guys to take the rap for the Epstien case etc etc.

Do you mind if I give you an example. And let me know what you think.

Before the October the 7th Hamas incident.
Bi Bi Nethanyahu is under a lot of lawsuits and will most probably be behind bars for graft, corruption etc etc etc.

And the October 7th happened. So after Hamas was almost soundly defeated, I said almost , just look at Rafah and look at everything now. What happened next? Iran happened next.
What else is going to happen next I don't know, haven't figured out yet.

Bi Bi is still sitting there. If he managed to win all this wars, soundly get rid of the Palestinians, emasculate the Iranians, create a Greater Israel.
Do you think the general public will put him behind bars? No I do not think so, he will be revered as a Hero.

You don't put heroes or national heros behind bars.

It is the same as USA.. and this case potentially China. If you can get rid of " China " emasculate them so as to make sure your interest and the interests of millions of Americans are being protected and of course the business interest of the elites.
Do you think Americans and the general public will just say, ok it is horrible what these guys did with the little girls, but hey these guys just guaranteed us USA and her citizens another 100 to 200 years of peace and prosperity.

Just slightly put a blind eye to it I guess. Because what these elites did, no matter what kind of shit they did, just protected 4 to 5 generation of our kids etc etc

Do you not think it can happen this way ?

I would like your point of view.

This post was edited by Hamsterbaby on Jul 12 2025 09:08pm

We have to keep talking about it, it's Jewish elite bankers and power brokers, but the boomers are still stuck in the post-war Big Lie. If this doesn't wake them up, nothing will. They have to die off then the majority voice will be impossible to ignore. It's a solvable problem