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Jul 11 2025 11:17am
Concentration camps making a comeback in the 21st century

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Jul 11 2025 11:17am
Just to expand on this.

They *are* comfortable. The comfort is the problem. Comfort is the most destructive & addictive drug that exists. Comfortable but not happy - happiness is waiting on the other side of embracing constructive discomfort.


This is definitely true, I like what you said about sports too. Been playing soccer my whole life and without that my desk job would seem like a physical death sentence.

It is definitely people making bad choices but it's not all people's fault imo, food companies and just overall change in labor contribute to Americas physical health issues also. My grandpa was a union carpenter and my grandma was a stay at home mom. To be equally financially successful most families have two people working desk jobs which leads to less healthy habits naturally since families are working more hours and doing less physical work on average.

Corporate messaging around AI is winner takes everything opposed to transitioning to a society with less stress and more free time.

We need people in society to stop being whiny victims for sure. But we also need significant structural changes to corporate control and greed.
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Jul 11 2025 11:21am
None of this negates a general happiness as well as significant rising wealth gap resulting in essentially younger generations without estate inheritance working multiple jobs to engage is the incrediblely over pushed consumerism society that is the USA. Where you dream of a miserable suburban life with 2 tahoes in the driveway and realize shit now I need a boat I'll never use either.

Now obviously my comment was a hyperbolic joke, I clearly don't think working is a death camp but the fact it even riled people up to defend this shit system we have probably means theirs hints of truth to how miserable the system is for coming generations.

They are not getting that boomer and Gen x life.


I agree with all of that. It's just getting harder and harder.

I always say, I believe boomers to be the most morally reprehensible generation in history going back at least 400 years. Comfortable, lazy, greedy, crab-mentality.

Speaking from my own take on what people want to be happy - people don't want two tahoes with a massive house and a boat like the boomers want. People want one vehicle, a garage to park it, a home of their own, and a stable 40 hour work week. They don't want threats of eviction looming over their heads. They don't care about keeping up with the Jones' in terms of material possessions (but they do tend to have this mentality with respect to experiences & social status), they largely just want a place of peace, a home. Not being forced to work more than 40 hours a week and have a bunch of roommates that make a peaceful home impossible.

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Jul 11 2025 11:25am
if they arrested the people hiring illegals, they problem would be fixed in < 6 months
the real problem that no one wants to talk about is that corporations LOVE cheap labor, doesnt matter if they are liberal or conservative, in a capitalist place like the USA, they will go for the cheaper option to increase profits


This is absolutely true

One of the biggest issues is the impunity of these corporations, covered for with bought and paid for GDP sophistry from the political elites. Bring the hammer down.

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Jul 11 2025 11:40am
I agree with all of that. It's just getting harder and harder.

I always say, I believe boomers to be the most morally reprehensible generation in history going back at least 400 years. Comfortable, lazy, greedy, crab-mentality.

Speaking from my own take on what people want to be happy - people don't want two tahoes with a massive house and a boat like the boomers want. People want one vehicle, a garage to park it, a home of their own, and a stable 40 hour work week. They don't want threats of eviction looming over their heads. They don't care about keeping up with the Jones' in terms of material possessions (but they do tend to have this mentality with respect to experiences & social status), they largely just want a place of peace, a home. Not being forced to work more than 40 hours a week and have a bunch of roommates that make a peaceful home impossible.


I think that's part of having to move those end goal posts compared the previous generations. Most have had to resign to the fact they won't own a home by their mid 20s. That they probably won't have two vehicles. I'm sure they would still desire those things it's just so out of reach now for the average.

What once was a family of 4 dream by your end of 20s with a home has become a I'd like to be stable enough to not have roommates by the time I'm 30. Hopefully I can own a small home by 35 or 40. Our goals have shifted dramatically.

For the upcoming generations I forsee the end goal moving once again.

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Jul 11 2025 11:52am
I think that's part of having to move those end goal posts compared the previous generations. Most have had to resign to the fact they won't own a home by their mid 20s. That they probably won't have two vehicles. I'm sure they would still desire those things it's just so out of reach now for the average.

What once was a family of 4 dream by your end of 20s with a home has become a I'd like to be stable enough to not have roommates by the time I'm 30. Hopefully I can own a small home by 35 or 40. Our goals have shifted dramatically.

For the upcoming generations I forsee the end goal moving once again.


I think the next generation will see better times. We are at the end of a 80/90 year 4-generation cycle which started at the end of WWII. The hippy theory is called Fourth Turning. Each cycle is denoted by a significant event, WWII, ending of civil war.

As for real estate, was reading the median home buyer age is mid 30. Median home to median income is about 4.7 ratio. First year of the great depression it was about 4.1 ratio.

Seems our pivot is either a soft civil war or external large scale conflict.

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Jul 11 2025 11:58am
Is entering the country without proper documentation legal now? Asking because I stopped following this stuff after they gave Laken Riley’s killer life in prison on our dime.

No sympathy anymore. It sets a precedent that you can come into our country illegally, kill a white person and then be taken care of on the US TAXPAY’S DIME for the rest of your life.

No. Take that guy out back and get rid of him.
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Jul 11 2025 12:15pm
Is entering the country without proper documentation legal now? Asking because I stopped following this stuff after they gave Laken Riley’s killer life in prison on our dime.

No sympathy anymore. It sets a precedent that you can come into our country illegally, kill a white person and then be taken care of on the US TAXPAY’S DIME for the rest of your life.

No. Take that guy out back and get rid of him.


Ya for sure how most other countries would treat a similar crime.
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I think the next generation will see better times. We are at the end of a 80/90 year 4-generation cycle which started at the end of WWII. The hippy theory is called Fourth Turning. Each cycle is denoted by a significant event, WWII, ending of civil war.

As for real estate, was reading the median home buyer age is mid 30. Median home to median income is about 4.7 ratio. First year of the great depression it was about 4.1 ratio.

Seems our pivot is either a soft civil war or external large scale conflict.


I'd hope but I'm not seeing much of a correction here in Canada yet when you look at real wages to average home cost. Especially once you remove the mass amount of 400 square foot condos built in Vancouver and Toronto no one wants that are inflating the supply market statistics.

Unfortunately I think we're only a decade or two from allowing 40 year amortizations of mortgages. Bascisly have one till death like some EU countries where mortgages are common place to pass to the next generation.
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I'd hope but I'm not seeing much of a correction here in Canada yet when you look at real wages to average home cost. Especially once you remove the mass amount of 400 square foot condos built in Vancouver and Toronto no one wants that are inflating the supply market statistics.

Unfortunately I think we're only a decade or two from allowing 40 year amortizations of mortgages. Bascisly have one till death like some EU countries where mortgages are common place to pass to the next generation.


In US, policy makers could do a couple simple things to drastically improve housing. It's a fabricated problem. Will that happen? Likely no with the existing plutocracy.

Easy ones would be: Enforce residential zoning and tie up loopholes like AirBNB investors taking single family units off market. Tax vacant business owned single unit family homes. Limit business owned single family units in a municipality. Modernize building codes and regulations to allow proven alternative homes like THOW. Modernize minimums, setbacks, etc. Open up vacant city lots for development proposals. Eliminate income based housing discrimination programs that disproportionately impact supply of affordable houses for working Americans. Standardize property tax hikes or just eliminate the BS.

For most, housing is their death camp.

It's infuriating though as the solutions are so simple
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