"Gravity exists, therefore the moon is going to collide with the earth in the next 20 years and kill us all"
Human-caused climate change that accounts for a ~0% increase in precipitation and ~5% increase of intensity in probable maximum flood events does not result in 600% increase of flood damages


That's the difference between people who actually understand the science of climate and logistics of disaster mitigation and response, and people who just want to use dead children as soapboxes for political arguments. I grant you, a pile of dead schoolgirls makes a convenient platform compared to the average fat american being stacked in a pile, imagine the climb, it would be like the inside of a lava lamp.



There were multiple emergency alerts. There were multiple levels of NWS flash flood warnings, first for the county as the storm posed a general risk, then for the specific area once gauges indicated an immediate hazard. With a big red alert saying catastrophic damage imminent. The local NWS station sent out cell phone alerts using an amber-alert style system to everyone in the area, the kind that trigger their alarms even on silent, and the campground itself sent out messages telling everyone to evacuate. The storm hit in the middle of the night, people were asleep and not able to evacuate. Shit happens, this has occurred many times throughout history and will happen again in the future, and modern technology and logistical constraints don't allow us to magically rouse and evacuate everyone from an act of god on short notice.

GOP won the elections. Democrats lost. And you're still sore.

lol



I quoted the other guy who talked about climate change.

That's right




Dodged the question. Are you prepared to give up your mobile, car, etc and have no kids for the sake of climate change.

Go

This post was edited by Djunior on Jul 7 2025 05:08am

On the climate change banter...


The earth is part of a closed system with the sun, so the thought that humans can significantly alter the climate here without changing this Uber macro variable is a stretch. Would be nice if those graphs earlier we're not aliased


As for emergency alerts, they are absolutely unreliable in USA. Weve been single digit miles from some of the worst forest fires this year and only got a couple alerts on phone. I'm not even opted in, my wife though opted her phone into the county notification services, she got less than me.


The adjacent county had 20x more information and alerting on same fire as it was burning.




When EMS and notifications are not raising the alarm, then people will stay at their properties. They think the gov abandoned them and will fight it out.

This post was edited by RedFromWinter on Jul 7 2025 05:19am

This topic makes me sick to my stomach. I hope karma gets you for real.

Wow! It's really happening.
Muricans r speaking abou the man-made climate change

What's next?
Sth crazy like gun control, abortion rights or even the round earth conspiracy?!?!

I'm trialing a demo for a children's cartoon to run on sunday mornings
Its going to be called "Captain Basic Math Skills"

Now nevermind the fact the temperature on the 4th dropped from 87f to 75f during the cold front of the storm when the historical average is 95f high, 72f low, which means high temperatures weren't really a factor. But hey, it could have plausibly dropped from 85f to 73f without human caused climate change, and the maximum moisture content at 100% relative humidity could drop by almost 7%. A relatively outsized effect but lets cherry pick it nonetheless.

So a whole bunch of schoolgirls are going to be trapped in a building as the floodwaters rise and they can't escape, gasping for air near the ceiling as things look increasingly hopeless. When just then, captain basic math skills surfaces in the water next to them! He's a big green skinned superhero with blue hair in bright spandex. He tells them that by channeling the powers of all the climate-conscious citizens of America, combining the power of every metal straw used in place of a disposable plastic, the power of every non-tesla electric vehicle purchase and rebate, the power of every fetus aborted to reduce a family's carbon footprint, he's temporary reversed the effects of anthropogenic climate change in the immediate area! A warm green glow basks the entire campground as the sky spirits of al gore and greta thunberg nod approvingly. The flood waters then recede by a whole 7%. And then instead of continuing to flood up to 26 feet in 45 minutes, it only continues to crest at 24 feet. He then poofs into a cloud of green smoke and abandons the girls as they all promptly drown and their bodies float there helplessly, and we cut to the theme music and splash intro of Captain Basic Math Skills, cue guitar riff and 80s pop singer shouting his name.

This post was edited by Goomshill on Jul 7 2025 05:36am

he shud then procede to r*** 'em too to totally catch the drift of your fantasy there bud.


It's like covid times.
A consensus of ACTUAL science means nothing.

I prefer doing my own research.

Really wish you people can make a proper post with out turning it political as if politics have anything to do with the disaster that just hit Texas...




These jobs can be done properly and efficiently with these cuts.

The reason for these waste cuts were intentional for a reason. It's waste. It's amazing how no matter what occurs in the country you all just blame Trump. There's so many people in this country that just fight for it to not be great.

u shall not be upset my child. procede to pray. and nuttin but pray. wordly things dont matter. only jesus does.

The recent flooding in Texas is absolutely heartbreaking and my deepest condolences go out to all those affected. As of my recent research (correct me if I am wrong), at least 82 people have lost their lives, including 28 children, with dozens still missing which many are from youth camps along the river . The devastation has been especially severe in Kerr county, where the river rose to 26 feet in JUST 45 minutes. 45 MINUTES! THAT IS WILD, I about spit out my coffee, in times of emergency I bet that 45 minutes felt like 45 seconds to all those people , it snuck up overwhelming communities/campgrounds in the early morning hours when most were asleep. We all need to keep in mind that Texas is no stranger to flash flooding, especially in the hill country, which is often referred to as the flash flood alley due to its soil and runoffs. However IMO, the scale and speed of this weather event were unprecedented and not entirely natural. The flooding was triggered by a very intense slow moving storm partially fueled by Barry. Some streamers/storm watchers and vetted meteorologists have noted unusual lightning and radar blips/anomalies during the event, which warrants further dives into weather modification, call me a conspiracy theorist, but too many coincidences just laying around. While there has been some public tension around the political povs, I believe the focus should remain on the meteorological and infrastructural factors. The NWS did issue multiple flood alerts/warnings including a flash flood emergency, but the speed of the rivers rise left very little time for evacuation in many areas. Notably, like you touched base on in gerneral, Kerr county does lack a formal flood warning system, a vulnerability that had been discussed for years but never fully addressed due to funding concerns that I guess you could ultimately tie it into politics, IMO no matter the party your associated with your first job is protect your people and due to Texas location/Gulf, further/better safety measures should have long been in place/prioritized. In times like these, it’s essential to set aside speculation and focus on facts, compassion, and recovery. What happened in Texas was not normal by any standard, we all can at least agree on that as an obvious factor, and it underscores the urgent need for improved early warning systems, resilient infrastructure, and continued investment in meteorological sources. How fast things can happen, just makes you appreciate all the little things. We all need to stay humble, while we are bickering and back and fourth, there are families facing grief and events they never could imagine impacting them. Cherish each moment.