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Jul 5 2025 06:32am
God knows everything, but he doesnt know everything because he aquired that knowledge from an outside source, he knows everything because he is the source of all things. He knows all things because he commanded all those things. God is never surprised and god does not learn, because he is already omnipotent. So all the knowledge he has is his own doing. He is the source. So theres no free will.


So it's gods will to have homosexuals, good to know
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Jul 5 2025 06:34am
You aquired your knowledge, god cant aquire knowledge from another source. He is the source. And the source is always the cause.


and i didnt have a choice about teasing my little sister God made me do it

stop signs prove free will. one would think if no free will people would be blowing through stop signs all day long. maybe God makes people stop at stop signs and we just dont have a choice about it.
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Jul 5 2025 06:40am
So it's gods will to have homosexuals, good to know


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and i didnt have a choice about teasing my little sister God made me do it

stop signs prove free will. one would think if no free will people would be blowing through stop signs all day long. maybe God makes people stop at stop signs and we just dont have a choice about it.


I tell you what I told the other guy. If it was THAT obvious, this wouldnt be a topic for discussion for centuries. Instead of trying to desprove me so cheap, why not try to discuss my line of thought with me. Why not point out where I am wrong and what you would suggest instead?

As long as we feel like we have free will, we make stop signs and follow them. Us making stop signs is just as much a part of the whole thing as everything else. I dont see how this is a contradiction.
Many people believe in fate. They still fasten their seat belts and stop at red lights.

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Jul 5 2025 06:53am
Looks like it feels like I chose to respond, yeah. Feels good, gotta admit.
If having free will was as obvious as your line of thoughts, this wouldnt be a century old topic.


Man, look at all of this free will happening here.
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I tell you what I told the other guy. If it was THAT obvious, this wouldnt be a topic for discussion for centuries. Instead of trying to desprove me so cheap, why not try to discuss my line of thought with me. Why not point out where I am wrong and what you would suggest instead?

As long as we feel like we have free will, we make stop signs and follow them. Us making stop signs is just as much a part of the whole thing as everything else. I dont see how this is a contradiction.
Many people believe in fate. They still fasten their seat belts and stop at red lights.


choices you make are just a illusion and you believe that because something else chose that belief for you?
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choices you make are just a illusion and you believe that because something else chose that belief for you?


Yes.

Or better said: Yes, if god exists. If not, no one chose. Its then a natural process rather then someones command. Which I think is way more plausible.

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Jul 5 2025 07:14am
Yes.

Or better said: Yes, if god exists. If not, no one chose. Its then a natural process rather then someones command. Which I think is way more plausible.


a naturalistic accidental random process results in a organized logic process, or? these random chemical reactions just makes you think your logical?
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a naturalistic accidental random process results in a organized logic process, or? these random chemical reactions just makes you think your logical?


No accident no. Accidents are not supposed to happen. Randomness doesnt exist.

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Jul 5 2025 07:42am
Good lord close this thread already.

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