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Jul 1 2025 06:08am
The claim collapses under its own contradictions. If Gaza were truly facing mass starvation and total devastation, as described, how exactly are there cafés open to be “flattened”? You can’t have both a society on the brink of famine and an active café culture. More importantly, almost all information coming out of Gaza is filtered through Hamas a terrorist organization that controls the narrative, censors dissent, and manipulates images and reports for propaganda purposes. These dramatic claims about ambulances and aid convoys often originate from unverifiable sources aligned with Hamas. Meanwhile, Israel facilitates daily humanitarian aid, even as Hamas routinely steals supplies, hides weapons in civilian areas, and uses its own population as human shields. To ignore that reality and accept every accusation at face value is not seeking truth it’s parroting propaganda.


The above is a quote from you. i have made no changes and have nothing to add.
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The claim collapses under its own contradictions. If Gaza were truly facing mass starvation and total devastation, as described, how exactly are there cafés open to be “flattened”? You can’t have both a society on the brink of famine and an active café culture. More importantly, almost all information coming out of Gaza is filtered through Hamas a terrorist organization that controls the narrative, censors dissent, and manipulates images and reports for propaganda purposes. These dramatic claims about ambulances and aid convoys often originate from unverifiable sources aligned with Hamas. Meanwhile, Israel facilitates daily humanitarian aid, even as Hamas routinely steals supplies, hides weapons in civilian areas, and uses its own population as human shields. To ignore that reality and accept every accusation at face value is not seeking truth it’s parroting propaganda.


The above is a quote from you. i have made no changes and have nothing to add. Well actually, i will add this:

You completely shifted the conversation. I pointed out how it makes no sense to claim that Gaza is suffering mass famine while also talking about cafés being “flattened” a society can’t be starving and running cafés at the same time. Instead of addressing that contradiction, you jumped to a different topic about alleged IDF actions involving ambulances. Even if some of those claims hold weight, they don’t answer the original point. And let’s be clear: the Times of Israel isn’t confirming these things as facts, it’s reporting what others often the UN or Palestinian officials are claiming, and those sources frequently rely on information coming through Hamas, which controls the narrative in Gaza. That’s not objective truth, it’s repeating allegations. The IDF itself informed the UN about the burial site, which clearly doesn’t suggest a cover-up. War zones are chaotic, and unfortunately, tragic mistakes happen, but that’s exactly why investigations are ongoing. If your idea of truth is just echoing everything Hamas-linked sources say when it’s published in an Israeli paper, you’re not after truth, you’re just repeating propaganda. And the fact you switched topics only proves you couldn’t respond to the original contradiction.


I dont see the need to add anything here either.

If anyone else wants to try, feel free.


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Jul 1 2025 08:19am
The above is a quote from you. i have made no changes and have nothing to add. Well actually, i will add this:



I dont see the need to add anything here either.

If anyone else wants to try, feel free.


There’s no contradiction here. You’re misrepresenting the argument and shifting the focus instead of addressing the actual point. That’s not honest debate, it’s deflection.
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Jul 1 2025 11:50pm
We all know racism is bad but can be forgiven as just something we learned growing up..But to make fun of a group of people being bombed and killed every day is straight up evil as fvck...


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Jul 2 2025 06:05pm
Bob Vylan lol.

>leads chant death to IDF on live BBC coverage
>immediately gets dropped by his label
>was planning on going on tour in US but has visa revoked
>now being criminally investigated for it

The dolt was only just trying to appeal to what’s cool and popular with the 18-30 crowd and learned a valuable lesson in fafo. Well done 😂


https://www.npr.org/2025/06/30/g-s1-75284/glastonbury-bob-vylan-kneecap-investigation

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Jul 2 2025 06:14pm
Bob Vylan lol.

>leads chant death to IDF on live BBC coverage
>immediately gets dropped by his label
>was planning on going on tour in US but has visa revoked
>now being criminally investigated for it

The dolt was only just trying to appeal to what’s cool and popular with the 18-30 crowd and learned a valuable lesson in fafo. Well done 😂


https://www.npr.org/2025/06/30/g-s1-75284/glastonbury-bob-vylan-kneecap-investigation


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Jul 2 2025 11:41pm
We all know racism is bad but can be forgiven as just something we learned growing up..But to make fun of a group of people being bombed and killed every day is straight up evil as fvck...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mwcFEpAYkU



This perfectly mirrors what i wrote in the chat before

A shocking Survey out of Pennsylvania state university shows that a majority of Israelies openly support the genocide and ethnic cleansing of Gaza.

82% Support expelling Palestinians from Gaza
56% Support expelling Palestinians "citizens" from Israel
47% Support IDF murdering everyone inside an occupied city

https://zeteo.com/p/its-not-just-netanyahu-a-lot-of-israelis?fbclid=IwY2xjawLK-69leHRuA2FlbQIxMABicmlkETFXQ25Db2c1Z0ZhdWRVVWNGAR7vy-GCz-vTwNzL67lk6_wRl0DSK7mRac31dj_3NiDDQDS7BN8EUZji-Y4ltA_aem_KIXG3X6Oq7LfRVYo-QsCWw


Now here's an ugly, but quite obvious twist. The Office of Military Government, US surveyed the American occupation zone in Germany after the war '45-'49 and made 191 public opinon polls and other reports expessing the public opinon.

In eleven of these surveyes between 45 and 46 an average of 47% agreed that national socialism was a good idea, badly carried out
In Aug of 1946
37% agreed that the extermination of the Jews and Poles and other non-Aryan races was necessary for the secutiry of Germany.
33% agreed that Jews should not have the same rights as those who belonged to the Aryan race


https://archive.org/details/publicopinionino00merr/page/35/mode/1up


So congratulations to the Israelis you are now more racist and more genocidal than post second world war Germany. Well done.

Time to take a look in the mirror and change!



This is turning into histories biggest irony.

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Jul 2 2025 11:52pm
This perfectly mirrors what i wrote in the chat before




This is turning into histories biggest irony.


Didn’t the Zionist’s and nazis have some kind of relationship?

Are zionists racist against their own Jewish people?

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Jul 3 2025 12:47am
Didn’t the Zionist’s and nazis have some kind of relationship?

Are zionists racist against their own Jewish people?


Zionism is simply Jewish self determination
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Jul 3 2025 02:21am
Didn’t the Zionist’s and nazis have some kind of relationship?

Are zionists racist against their own Jewish people?


There is more Christian Zionist then Jewish ones.. A lot of jews are not zionist .. The Zionist ones are less religious also I think...They just use the religion for a justification to steal land
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