Quote (Many_Names @ Jun 29 2025 01:03pm)

This has nothing to do with morality. If Iran resumes enriching uranium toward a bomb, we will strike again. That’s not a matter of ethics, it’s national survival. No country waits politely while its enemies prepare a nuclear threat

Quote (ferdia @ 29 Jun 2025 20:04)

delicately now, did you not say last week that it was mission accomplished ?

Quote (D_urRRR @ 29 Jun 2025 20:05)

No idea why people support Iran in this scenario.

Quote (Many_Names @ 30 Jun 2025 01:11)

Racism is like a cancer in the brain: invisible to the one who carries it until the damage is done.

Quote (D_urRRR @ Jun 29 2025 06:05pm)

No idea why people support Iran in this scenario.

Quote (ferdia @ Jun 30 2025 08:12am)

It's not really a question of supporting Iran, its more that :

1. It complied with international law for over a decade.

2. It honored the nuclear deal until it was violated by the U.S.

3. It was attacked by two nuclear powers — while still not possessing a bomb.

4. It is seen as a victim of double standards that punish restraint and reward militarism.

5. "Supporting Iran" here means defending the principle that non-nuclear countries should be protected, not punished — especially when they follow the rules.

If the U.S. and Israel can unilaterally throw the so-called ‘Rules-Based International Order’ into the dustbin by attacking a non-nuclear state that was in compliance with international law — then that’s where the order is. In the dustbin. For everyone. This is why there is so much head shaking. The long term effect of such actions supports the notion of some serious adventures (wars) on the horizon. When every non nuclear country sees what is happening to Iran, they will all have to consider whether they need to get a nuclear deterrent. Words, Diplomacy and Agreements are now in the dustbin.

Quote (zorzin @ Jun 27 2025 05:08pm)

Im gona have to disagree with you on this. Israel does NOT primarily use pgms in gaza. You can check what uncle sam has been shipping over to the Israelis, and youll find that its a whole lota mk82/84 unguided bombs. The Israelis also received tons of jdam kits and gbu39s, which are guided, but 50% of all bombs dropped in gaza have been unguided.

I very closely follow what munitions are being used in this war, and its fairly obvious that israel saves the good stuff for targets that actually require pgms, mostly in lebanon and iran. I dont blame the israelis for using this approach, because you dont need pgms to target civilian infrastructure, but i personally believe that the civilian casualties are horrendous because of this approach.

Im not trying to come off like someone who knows better than the israeli brass, but i do believe that they caused wanton destruction in gaza due to reckless bombing campaigns. For what its worth, i am mostly behind their endeavours in lebanon and iran.



Yep. Its fair to say that the israelis are at the forefront of interceptor technology (only behind the US). They are probably 10(?) Years away from being fully dependent on their own aa/ad, which is something im fully behind.

Question for ya: do your views on israeli aggression change depending on the country? I ask because i agree with pretty much all your viewpoints regarding gaza, but im more #teamisrael when it comes to their actions in syria, lebanon and iran. Im interested in your mindset.

Quote (D_urRRR @ Jun 30 2025 01:40pm)

Oh please explain how the US violated the nuclear deal with Iran.

The US is not at fault for the war between Isreal and Iran either.

Quote (ferdia @ Jun 30 2025 08:57am)

What part of the comment that I posted do you not understand?

it is a fact that the US unilaterally broke the deal. sec i will expand i guess?
Also, your right, the US is not at fault re: the war between Israel and Iran. to be quite frank, Iran is at fault. However, the US is at fault for bombing Iran, unprovoked. we already discussed this a few days ago...


long version:

The JCPOA was a multilateral deal.
Iran kept its side of the bargain.
The U.S. broke its obligations by:

Unilaterally pulling out,
Reimposing nuclear-related sanctions,
Undermining the deal's function for others,
And punishing Iran for complying.

This is what people mean when its said that the U.S. violated the deal. It wasn't just a policy change, it was a breach of a signed international agreement.

Quote (D_urRRR @ Jun 30 2025 02:26pm)

Trump had concerns and wanted to propose some modifications to the deal, which I feel is very valid given Iran's end goal with nuclear weapons. Iran has made it very clear they want nuclear weapons to use them for war

Iran violated the JCPOA in many ways and Trumps decision to withdraw from it did not gove Iran the okay to violate any previous or new terms that were in place.

Uranium Enrichment:
Iran has enriched uranium to 60% purity, significantly exceeding the 3.67% limit set by the JCPOA.

Uranium Stockpile:
Iran's stockpile of enriched uranium is now many times larger than the agreement's limit.

Centrifuge Limitations:
Iran has installed and operates centrifuges in excess of the JCPOA's limits.

Monitoring Restrictions:
Iran has significantly curtailed international monitoring of its nuclear activities, including ceasing implementation of the Additional Protocol of its IAEA Safeguards Agreement.

Nuclear Material Discovery:
The International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) found undeclared particles of uranium at an undisclosed site.

We also can't ignore how Iran has been funding terrorist organizations with weapons, training, and military aid and has resulted in American casualties. This is all very black and white and it's very obvious who is at fault for everything Iran has been doing.

I am in full support in our country preventing terrorists from getting equipped with nuclear weapons that they intend to use for war