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Jun 26 2025 05:00am
That framing presents a false binary. The fact that these territories are not part of Israel does not automatically make them a functioning State of Palestine. A territory can be neither sovereign Israeli land nor a viable Palestinian state which is, in fact, the current situation.

If Palestinians want statehood, they need to build accountable institutions, unify their leadership, and stop relying on framing everything as Israeli responsibility. Self-determination requires self-discipline not dependency.


i feel i am in the twilight zone. who are you and what have you done with the user many_names.
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Jun 26 2025 05:11am
but why would you be surprised? you have read the same things he has said that we have all read. I have already said I am giving him a pass, I am not prepared to quote the stuff what he has said repeatedly - I will keep my word. ultimately Iran has to stop funding all these terror groups, in this i believe there is agreement. it gets a bit tricky though when we see Israel doing its thing in Gaza, the West Bank, and Greater Israel, who will help the Palestinians ? certainly not the western world. when you speak of barbarians, I would challenge - they are Iranians. It is problematic to call a nation barbarians - people in glass houses should be careful with such labels as the glass might fall on them.


I call barbarians to those who rape and kill civilians for fun and then calls their parents to brag about it.
Are all Palestinians bad ? Probably not.
Are the majority of them are Hamas/bad ? I don’t know and I don’t care. I’m not a social worker that cares about the individual. Facts are that the Palestinians , and the Arab world is lead by radicals who invests all their power to try and destroy me.
Take Egypt for example -
If the Muslim brotherhood had control over Egypt , we should soon enough find ourselves in another regional war. But since Egypt and Jordan as well are ruled by an impressive regime, although they have disgusting population, we still have peace.

Iran is a very impressive country with very impressive people which are lead by radical Islam and that’s a problem.
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Jun 26 2025 05:13am
That framing presents a false binary. The fact that these territories are not part of Israel does not automatically make them a functioning State of Palestine. A territory can be neither sovereign Israeli land nor a viable Palestinian state which is, in fact, the current situation.

If Palestinians want statehood, they need to build accountable institutions, unify their leadership, and stop relying on framing everything as Israeli responsibility. Self-determination requires self-discipline not dependency.


Thus far the Palestinians showed that they don’t have a single constructive bone in their body.
Their entire being is based upon the destruction of Israel.
How else will you explain living for 100 years in refugee camps ?
As soon as they start showing a will to make something for them selves, the better.
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Jun 26 2025 10:11am
I call barbarians to those who rape and kill civilians for fun and then calls their parents to brag about it.
Are all Palestinians bad ? Probably not.
Are the majority of them are Hamas/bad ? I don’t know and I don’t care. I’m not a social worker that cares about the individual. Facts are that the Palestinians , and the Arab world is lead by radicals who invests all their power to try and destroy me.
Take Egypt for example -
If the Muslim brotherhood had control over Egypt , we should soon enough find ourselves in another regional war. But since Egypt and Jordan as well are ruled by an impressive regime, although they have disgusting population, we still have peace.

Iran is a very impressive country with very impressive people which are lead by radical Islam and that’s a problem.


Thus far the Palestinians showed that they don’t have a single constructive bone in their body.
Their entire being is based upon the destruction of Israel.
How else will you explain living for 100 years in refugee camps ?
As soon as they start showing a will to make something for them selves, the better.


Both of these posts are inherently flawed, and racist. I strongly urge you to reign in the rhetoric.



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Jun 26 2025 10:49am
i feel i am in the twilight zone. who are you and what have you done with the user many_names.


This part rings true for Israel. Cells within cells

"Self-determination requires self-discipline not dependency"

This post was edited by RedFromWinter on Jun 26 2025 10:50am
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Jun 26 2025 11:43am
Both of these posts are inherently flawed, and racist. I strongly urge you to reign in the rhetoric.


I borrowed this rhetoric from Dan Schueftan.
It may hurt a little bit, but this guy is totally worth listening to.
He was the intellectual foundation behind Ariel Sharon’s disengagement plan.
Search him up. Let me know what you think. While
You do so, keep in mind that every word coming out from this guy’s mouth is backed by his study. You may prepare a counter but no one ever challenged his dignity.
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I borrowed this rhetoric from Dan Schueftan.
It may hurt a little bit, but this guy is totally worth listening to.
He was the intellectual foundation behind Ariel Sharon’s disengagement plan.
Search him up. Let me know what you think. While
You do so, keep in mind that every word coming out from this guy’s mouth is backed by his study. You may prepare a counter but no one ever challenged his dignity.




dont say i dont try.

This post was edited by ferdia on Jun 26 2025 03:01pm
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Jun 26 2025 10:37pm
A shocking Survey out of Pennsylvania state university shows that a majority of Israelies openly support the genocide and ethnic cleansing of Gaza.

82% Support expelling Palestinians from Gaza
56% Support expelling Palestinians "citizens" from Israel
47% Support IDF murdering everyone inside an occupied city

https://zeteo.com/p/its-not-just-netanyahu-a-lot-of-israelis?fbclid=IwY2xjawLK-69leHRuA2FlbQIxMABicmlkETFXQ25Db2c1Z0ZhdWRVVWNGAR7vy-GCz-vTwNzL67lk6_wRl0DSK7mRac31dj_3NiDDQDS7BN8EUZji-Y4ltA_aem_KIXG3X6Oq7LfRVYo-QsCWw


Now here's an ugly, but quite obvious twist. The Office of Military Government, US surveyed the American occupation zone in Germany after the war '45-'49 and made 191 public opinon polls and other reports expessing the public opinon.

In eleven of these surveyes between 45 and 46 an average of 47% agreed that national socialism was a good idea, badly carried out
In Aug of 1946
37% agreed that the extermination of the Jews and Poles and other non-Aryan races was necessary for the secutiry of Germany.
33% agreed that Jews should not have the same rights as those who belonged to the Aryan race


https://archive.org/details/publicopinionino00merr/page/35/mode/1up


So congratulations to the Israelis you are now more racist and more genocidal than post second world war Germany. Well done.

Time to take a look in the mirror and change!
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Gunfire erupted between the Barbakh clan, affiliated with Fatah, and Hamas forces after one of the leaders of the protests against Hamas was shot. In response, his relatives set fire to the entrance of Nasser Hospital. The Abu Shabab group stated: “Hospitals are not immune when they are used to attack the people״.

Even they understand it
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Jun 27 2025 02:41am
Gunfire erupted between the Barbakh clan, affiliated with Fatah, and Hamas forces after one of the leaders of the protests against Hamas was shot. In response, his relatives set fire to the entrance of Nasser Hospital. The Abu Shabab group stated: “Hospitals are not immune when they are used to attack the people״.

Even they understand it


Israel is like a grown man who has just punched a bunch of children on the playground then made them stay witihout anything to eat or drink for 2 days. Then when the kids start to fight eachother he yells and screams "look, they are fighting too, why are you mad at me"
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