the sin of sodom was not homosexuality in itself.
the sin was refusing a way out and specifically k1lling the one who offered it by trying to r4pe them aswell.

so it was very specific with regard to whats acceptable in a city and what isnt. Is homosexuality a sin? Yes. is that sin forgiven or covered by grace? Yes.
This means youre not sinning if its not what you want, but a spirit holds you in contempt or conception of it. The human facet is never guilty. However you still pay the price of that sin.
homosexual sins would only apply to the spirit world, not your human agency covered by grace.

However the issue is that sins of the body are very entangled and dangerous for said spiritual reasons. Suffice to say the world needs more love and acceptance not less. However if evil spirits weaponize all love(lust psy ops) and especially gay love that is not conducive to procreation, then its not advisable behavior. but with no way out from angel what would you do?

However in the current world it would be better to be a gay man or woman with reserved love, even if not manifesting, than in a marriage designed to mrna jab their children.

This post was edited by lodd222 on Jun 24 2025 02:09am

I think the bigger idea is that the people of Sodom were complete and total reprobates so they had willingly cut themselves off from God's love. And that has relevance today because "gay" people are reprobates, that is, they live in unrepentant sin and take pride in it. Homosexual ideation or even acts of buggery itself are sins that are forgiven by Him but rejecting Him and being a reprobate is different. Still forgivable but a change of heart is required

Who got pardoned?

Still worshipping the devils persecution fetish for blaming the human agency? christ was clear the whore is forgiven, so is the homosexual. youre not wrestling against flesh, it's spiritual entanglement.

if i have you breath in chemicals that turn frogs gay should you be guilty for that cause and effect relation, should the human?

the intellectual bigotry can stop guys that is the devils MO. i would not have christians fighting christians in their lack of understanding of the devils tactics.

This post was edited by lodd222 on Jun 24 2025 10:17am

Of course we blame human agency, Cain murdered Abel by his own agency. Humans are gifted with free will to either obey God or reject God and instead serve Satan.

The fact that Christ took the sins of humanity onto himself does not mean that you can just do whatever you want and live your life conducting orgies of destruction & evil, mocking and blaspheming and denying Jesus, and suffer no divine consequences. However those who do such will still be forgiven if they come to believe in Him.

Jesus doesn't reject people. People reject Him.

This post was edited by El1te on Jun 24 2025 10:24am

WOuld you let a bunch of people come in and pillage your children if you were a father? Currently that is happening. a person unknowingly mocks jesus when you hold him in contempt or responsible for the devils doings but claim hes in charge. This means jesus can either not be omnipotent, not be alive, but what cant occur is that a part of creation can be tortured and jesus allows it. and yet it is so.

if you test the spirits to see if they be of god you will find its literally impossible for jesus to be alive while allowing for his creation to suffer in torment
if you suffer torment as christ did, if you suffer against your will, if you did not will but god allows it then god could not be good at the cross:

jesus last words told you himself that he had been deceived by satan: "Eli, Eli, lema sabachthani?"

christ on the cross portrayed that god(satan the god killer who k1lled god and stole creation & masquerades as light) had deceived him into giving up his body. i would not take them lightly, it's a wake up call to the christians of the primordial evil that killed our god at the cross and has weaponized scripture through cultural narration and contrived juxtaposition of said scriptures to romanticize blood letting for said primordial vampire.

This post was edited by lodd222 on Jun 24 2025 10:55am

PaRD = Political and Religious Debate

"de liver'd"

"from bottle to bots"

yes they saved your liver and delivered you. i still think you were better on the bottle than talking to human gpt bots on pard however

always appreciate your honesty, i like you enough to tell you the truth that even the christians wont "chase down":

they k1lled jesus, be prepared to fight the lineage of satan with the free gift jesus made for you:
https://www.bible.com/bible/compare/REV.2.26-28


34 “Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I have not come to bring peace, but a sword. 35 For I have come to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law. 36 And a person's enemies will be those of his own household.

4:44 ?