Its not a bizarre take. In the early 2000's, Iran’s Supreme Leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, issued a fatwa stating that the production, stockpiling, and use of nuclear weapons are forbidden under Islamic law. While Benjamin Netanyahu has for 30 years said Iran was months/few years away from getting a Nuke, the reality is Iran does not have Nukes, even after 30 years, even though it has a decades long nuclear program. Reputable sources, including those aligned with Israeli perspectives, confirm that Iran's Supreme Leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, issued this fatwa (religious decree) banning the development and use of nuclear weapons. This fatwa has been publicly acknowledged and cited in various international forums.

This is an International Israel website: https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/khamenei-adviser-says-iran-will-have-no-choice-but-to-get-nuclear-weapon-if-attacked/ and you can read about what Iran's leaders are currently mulling over. These questions are being discussed widely with International observers looking on to see where this goes.

This post was edited by ferdia on Jun 24 2025 09:14am

pre-2007, sure, agree.

post-2007? i read this a lot, seems silly. water and electricity provided. work visas provided. blockade with very little food spoilage, was basically a rocket material filter.

what exactly did Israel do between 2007 and october 7th that was so inflammatory? not allow all rocket materials in and not giving every Gazan the right to vote for all jews to be expelled? serious question.

This post was edited by thesnipa on Jun 24 2025 09:03am

I really think it’s more constructive if you look into this on your own rather than me trying to lay everything out here. Short version: Since 2007, Israel has killed a large number of people and carried out multiple incursions into Gaza, including airstrikes and other operations. From my perspective — and after speaking with several Israelis in the Oct 7 thread — it seems that, culturally, there’s a disconnect around the idea that certain policies and actions can actually fuel future conflict. Rather than debate point-by-point, I genuinely encourage you to read more widely. Sometimes hearing it from a different source makes all the difference. I say that without hostility.

This post was edited by ferdia on Jun 24 2025 09:17am

I would think this just expedited Iran's nuclear program 10 fold. Given the lack of total destruction and only deepening the hatred / conflict.

While you and I can agree on this, pro-israeli, and israeli voices ( as you can observe above ) think such insights are either bizarre or decades away. as repeatedly demonstrated by the Israeli voices they do no understand notions of logic. unfortunately they are not alone in this.

This post was edited by ferdia on Jun 24 2025 10:25am

This is just TDS

israel already has nuclear weapons

No. If this was going to take place they should have caused significantly more destruction. If this was the ultimate decision by the USA and Israel and you wanted to truly set them back decades, you go in with significant more force and bombardments.

Would that draw criticism, yes but if you already made up your mind to bomb their nuclear sites why only go part of the way. From the avalible imagery it sure does not appear to have that destructive at all sites.

Trump finally gets it? Israel will do anything to break a cease fire ..

i mean love him or hate him, he is so charismatic and drops truth bombs from time to time.



completely agree.



thats just propaganda ! stop being an anti semite! ask any of the israeli's here in this thread and see if they will confirm if Israel has nukes.

This post was edited by ferdia on Jun 24 2025 10:58am