If Iran were a rational adversary, its nuclear ambitions wouldn’t be as alarming. But this is a regime that, since 1979, has openly called for the annihilation of the Jewish state and actively worked toward that goal—arming Hezbollah, funding terrorism in Judea and Samaria, supporting Hamas and the Houthis, Practically creating a ring of fire surrounding Israel now pursuing nuclear weapons.
That’s not going to happen.

The US can try the first time and stop China the first time, but they will just keep coming back...so it is pointless.

The reason why I say there is a slight chance that a Greater Israel might prevent a hot war in the East is because of this.

https://merics.org/en/tracker/mapping-belt-and-road-initiative-where-we-stand

They get cock blocked at Tehran. They must think of something else
There was a previous route that goes through Ukraine and now they are cock blocked there.

And the West still controls the maritime route. The Chinese are claiming the South China Sea is mainly because of sea routes / oil and gas.
If you cock block them on land routes they will cock block your allies Philippines / South Korea / Japan / Taiwan .

Why do you support Israel, after admitting the wars are retarded and useless to us as Americans? They've costed more than just money, we've lost many soldiers in the middle east so Europeans can steal land from Arabs that have been there for a long ass time

This post was edited by kingkawn on Jun 20 2025 01:39pm

sure double or nothing ! deal! 200fg that the US will bomb Iran by no later then the 19th July.

If I were an American, I’d probably feel the same way but I’d also want my allies to have everything they need to defeat their enemies. At the same time, I admit I may not fully grasp the complexities of international diplomacy, but one thing is clear: the U.S. needs to project strength if it wants to be taken seriously again, especially after the Biden administration
So a swift and decisive bombing campaign to bring Iran to its knees and force it to abandon its nuclear ambitions might be necessary not just for Israel’s security, but for America’s credibility as a global power.

Sounds good! Way to make it exciting lol

I am going to put in my personal position.
I support neither Israel or Iran.

I support no matter what you fuckers do, please do not fuck up business worldwide and I also support the action against progressive woke LGBTQ plus DEI bull crap.

My support for Israel means i support their right to exist, i support the claim to that land, i support their right to defend themselves, control their borders, attack their enemies. I support their right to exist not only in Israel but here in the US and every other country without being attacked without being laughed or other negative stuff they've had to put up with for hundreds of years before.

In much of western Europe today a Hasidic jew walking down a street is likely to get harassed if not openly attacked, i don't agree with that we the west champion so many causes and equalities i.e. lgbtq or whatever but pretend that the example i just gave is normal to occur.

I'm also a Christian, and you cannot separate Israel and its people from the Christian fabric. You can't hate Jews and be a Christian.

Now with all that being said, after roughly 10 trillion being wasted on stupid wars in the ME with literally nothing to show for it, the prospect of going into Iran is the most retarded thing we can do right now. There's nothing ironic about that.

But Christians have been hating on Jews for like a thousand or more years or to be specific Catholics. Things change after WW2 and with the Evangelistic movement I guess.

So I am not exactly sure how to digest your comment that you can't hate Jews and be a Christian.
I am not trying to provoke an argument of any sorts. But there is historical facts that they did.

I think people hate on people without any rhyme or reasons at times. A good nationalistic propaganda will bring it very far.


This post was edited by Hamsterbaby on Jun 20 2025 02:03pm

Simple logic 101 argument.

Bob hates all Jews
Jesus was a Jew
Therefore Bob hates Jesus.


If Bob hates all Jews and Jesus was a Jew, then it follows he would also hate Jesus. So then if you hate Jesus how can you claim to be a Christian? You either love Jesus as the Bible instructs or you don't. It's quite binary.


Christian faith has had a lot of issues through its existence. Catholic church selling indulgences, catholic church getting behind the Reich, justifying slavery, list is long. That doesn't mean those are correct to central dogma.

This post was edited by ofthevoid on Jun 20 2025 02:11pm