well, they do have a border with Egypt. Why won’t their Egyptian brothers let them in ?
The Egyptians are even worst than the Israelis. at least the Israelis don’t pretend to have any sympathy towards the Palestinians.
Time for this Egyptian apartheid to end !

Who knows. Arabs probably aren't very pleasant to be around after being humiliated for that long.

I'd rather see this continue, America seems to be moving in the right direction regarding public opinion on israeli influence. If the U.S does get involved, hopefully Russia/Pakistan/China can just step in and do the world a favor lol.

Pakistan is American / Israel own though.
Not sure about Russia but the Chinese are just going to mind their own business. Unless helping Iran will cement their position in the Middle East.

In the end the Chinese don't really care...and dont forget...



AI Overview

Chinese investment in Israel has been significant, particularly in technology and infrastructure, with a notable increase in recent years.
While the exact figures are sometimes difficult to track, it's clear that China has become a major investor in the Israeli economy, with over $15 billion invested

The Chinese were upping their investments in Israel before all these Gaza / Iran and Trump BS. But now, it kind of toned down because of Geo Politics. And it is not like Israel is going to do China any favors in regards to relationship with USA.

ok, so, using your logic, the hospitals in Israel are legitimate targets for Iran.



Apartheid refers specifically to a national system of institutionalized racial or ethnic segregation within a country — as seen in Israel’s treatment of the Palestinian population. For example, Israel applies different legal systems and grants unequal rights to Jews and Palestinians based on ethnicity.

Egypt is not occupying Gaza — Israel is. While Egypt maintains a blockade, it does so for political reasons, not as part of a domestic regime of racial domination. Egypt’s policies may be harsh, but they are not apartheid, as they are not directed at its own population.

And if the argument is that Gaza and the West Bank are not part of Israel — then good. Let them freely declare independence, and let Palestinians live with full sovereignty. After all, “from the river to the sea” originally described Israeli territorial ambitions — so perhaps it’s time to genuinely support freedom for all who live between the river and the sea.

Another double post—my apologies. I may annoy some people with this one; it’s not intentional. So without further ado:

Given how emotionally charged this conflict is, it’s understandable that some independent voices may struggle with objectivity. That’s why I find established outlets like The Times of Israel and Al Jazeera more trustworthy for this topic. Both are currently presenting the same overarching message: that Israel is winning. I agree 100% with this view and expect no change in that position.

So far, there’s been little public evidence that Iranian attacks have caused significant damage in Israel. Israel’s defensive systems appear highly effective, greatly reducing the likelihood of mass casualties. While some suggest Israel is running low on weapons—as we've seen with similar narratives in the Russia-Ukraine conflict—such claims seem implausible, especially given the close military ties between Israel and the United States. Conversely, I agree with Israeli claims regarding Iranian targets, noting they have consistently been proven correct, albeit sometimes with a 24 to 48-hour delay.

While Iran may inflict some damage on Israel, this will likely hasten direct U.S. involvement against Iran. Although Israel seems to be tightening controls on what can be reported within its borders, which is normal during wartime, I do not see this as a major issue considering the expected trajectory of the conflict. Yes, Iran will strike Israel, and kill people, but the scale will be several orders of magnitude less than what Israel is doing in Iran.

The lesson here, if there is one, is that Iran’s choice to go it alone with a confrontational strategy was deeply misguided. Instead of building stronger alliances with Russia and China, it isolated itself—making it vulnerable to devastating retaliation. This serves as a stark warning to Russia and China - Iran’s fate shows how isolation in today’s geopolitical landscape invites destruction, and the U.S. has made no secret of its intentions towards Russia and China.

This post was edited by ferdia on Jun 20 2025 06:17am

We don’t use hospitals for warfare, so by my logic—which aligns with international law—Israeli hospitals are not legitimate targets for Iranian attacks.

In fact, all the Israelis who were killed were civilians.

“Uhhh, maybe you want to reconsider that statement? International law — really? If all of Gaza is considered a legitimate target, yet strikes on Israel are seen as crossing a line, then accusations of hypocrisy or selective morality start to make sense. Do unto others what they do to you — being nice leads to nice outcomes, and being aggressive leads to consequences.

Israel has repeatedly been criticized for flouting international law: illegal settlements, disproportionate strikes, collective punishment, and let’s not forget the inflammatory rhetoric. Do these issues ring a bell?”



i would regard this as fake news but i dont mind playing that game. Iran builds a nuclear bomb. and then what? they use it? and then they have no bombs left. they cant build a deterrent in 15 days, all that this narrative is doing is fearmongering and rabble rousing, an incitement to war.



This post was edited by ferdia on Jun 20 2025 08:28am

Israel is not a terrorist organization using civilian infrastructure for their warefare.
Iran is not a terrorist organization its a state that directly target a kindergarten, a school, a mosque and an hospital.

And besides, what does this have to do with Gaza?
By that logic, after October 7th, we should have invaded Gaza and committed atrocities like raping women — which is, of course, unthinkable.
What connection does Gaza even have to Iran in this context?

This post was edited by Many_Names on Jun 20 2025 09:01am

Oh, should i repost the article about the palestinian prisoners ? did you forget about that episode? you know, the time when the israeli public proclaimed its ok to rape prisoners and protested when the guards were arrested ?

there are so many points to your post that are easily refuted it is mind boggling. your complaining when Israel is hit (with little damage) while your country is literally bombing nuclear facilities in another country.

And you then have the audacity to say that there is no connection to gaza (where you bombed everything, not just schools, mosque's and hospitals). You also say that after Oct 7th you should have invaded Gaza and committed atrocities, but thats exactly what Israel did and continues to do via its collective punishment position.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israeli-tank-shelling-kills-45-people-awaiting-aid-trucks-gaza-ministry-says-2025-06-17/?utm_source=chatgpt.com

by all accounts this was a war crime and atrocity.

also i sent kingkawn the 100fg in advance. i had originally, erroneously, thought, that the US would bomb Iran within the next week or so. I failed to comprehend the level of US involvement/commitment. It looks like the US is going to do something on a whole other level, and that means that their attack will be delayed a bit. i revised my estimate to 2-3 weeks, and with no confidence in the US attacking with anything other then their trademark overwhelming might approach, i sent him the 100fg in advance.

This post was edited by ferdia on Jun 20 2025 09:30am