Jokic lost to Portland in the 2nd round in 2019

Swept by Phoenix in the second round in 2021

Lost to the Timberwolves in the second round in 2024


None of those teams were the "best team in the NBA"

2019 Jokic was 23 and Murray was 21 vs a seasoned Lillard and McCollum, still super closely contested 7 game series

Phoenix was the best team in the NBA around 2021, they won 64 games the following season

The TWolves are the only team you listed where the Nuggets should have won. However the TWolves were built well to counter Jokic, as the Knicks are optimized to counter the Celtics

Always an excuse for the pylon

Pacers doing work 🔥

Somehow Embiid is better for getting 4-1'd by the Celtics at 23?

Yes, Embiid at 23 in his second season playing in the NBA with a whopping 1 season worth of games played under his belt.

At 23, Jokic was in his 4th season with hundreds of NBA games played not to mentioned he played professionally overseas prior to joining the league.


Embiid was one of the most raw top pick prospects you'll ever see entering the NBA too, he was so new to basketball. While Jokic was already a pro.

This post was edited by Sixers on Jun 19 2025 07:56pm

3 MVPs and a ring. Embiid has been a regular season warrior and that's all he'll ever be remembered for

This post was edited by MildSambal on Jun 19 2025 08:10pm

up 30

OKC will still win it all. Game 5 was the deciding factor...

I had $2,200 riding on Indy tonight btw. Mostly spread, with $250 1Q and $250 ML.

This post was edited by Sixers on Jun 19 2025 08:51pm