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Jun 18 2025 06:13pm
So if the native americans were to suddenly start bombing americans you would be all for it?


The natives did Oct. 7 stuff on a daily basis - Indian raids on civilians. The old houses in Boston and Salem still have those historical countermeasures on them. They FAFO now they're basically wiped out, and now, no more Indian raids 400 years later!
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Jun 18 2025 06:14pm
What kind of diplomatic plebeians believe that this will some how support and benefit the American people?

Nothing here is for America. Nothing here is about America first.

The right is failing on their supposed goal being taken back into world politics that aren't important to it's own citizens beyond the COMMON connection, that we have citizens that have family in nearly every war torn nation in the world.

Surprise, it's not OUR (the US's) problem or even national mission, it changes nothing. It's not this nation's mission to save your family that didn't immigrate, it's not this nations directive to bail out your friends in another nation.

America was to be different.

Not European.

And if you haven't read a word of the federalist papers, farewell addresses of our forefathers, or anything else that would substantiate your opinion with those men and their call of a national mission beyond Europe. You are an enemy of those values and are not an American patriot in more than words alone. Not in fundamental understanding, you're a wishy-washy wannabe of even what you desire to be.

A phony.


Iran as an allied state under the Shah again is a pretty fucking big deal for geopolitics.
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Jun 18 2025 06:17pm
But do they have the ability?




Other than this, Israel owns the skies
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Jun 18 2025 06:23pm
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Other than this, Israel owns the skies


:lol:

I called it long ago, Iran is just too weak. When the Ayatollah relies on terror and demoralization to stay in power, no one's actually motivated to do anything.

Iran basically blew their load on Israel and sure a couple missiles got through with a few civilian deaths - is that all they can muster? The threats on X where afterwards nothing happens is making them lose any credibility they may have had
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Jun 18 2025 06:54pm
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I called it long ago, Iran is just too weak. When the Ayatollah relies on terror and demoralization to stay in power, no one's actually motivated to do anything.

Iran basically blew their load on Israel and sure a couple missiles got through with a few civilian deaths - is that all they can muster? The threats on X where afterwards nothing happens is making them lose any credibility they may have had


Ya, iran absolutely cannot defend itself from the israeli air force ( even though irans f14 tomcats are cute)

I personally believe that iran can still put up a hell of a fight, and it STILL has the ability to destroy israel with its current stockpiles of munitions, but its a very complex and delicate situation for them.

1. The US of A has moved a metric shiton of toys that can shoot down missiles all across the M/E. They got toys littered across all their bases in the region, and errbodys on high-alert.
2. Iran would have to launch atleast like 30-40% of their missles to get the damage required to achive parity in terms of destructive force against the israelis. If they do that though, Israel wipes em off the map. Britain and the US wouldnt need to even help that much (besides refuelling)
3. Iran is a one-trick pony. They put all their chips down on missle trch/drone tech and basically said meh to the rest of their conventional army. This approach definitely suits their geography but does categorically nothing against Israels air force.

Tl;dr: iran cant defend itself against israel, and its only deterrent gets it glassed if ever used in a decapitation-like strike, but it does have the means to destroy israel in kind ( obviously debatable)

I know iran looks weak as fuck right now and the israelis are curb-stomping them to the nines, but irans missile program is no joke. Iran deserves more respect than it gets because they are completely unaware of how hard it is to go toe to toe against israel, the us, and Britain, all while being sanctioned.
These missles are built underground, transported via a rail system and then fired underground where satellites cant trace em. Its actually very impressive for a ME country.

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Jun 18 2025 07:10pm
Ya, iran absolutely cannot defend itself from the israeli air force ( even though irans f14 tomcats are cute)

I personally believe that iran can still put up a hell of a fight, and it STILL has the ability to destroy israel with its current stockpiles of munitions, but its a very complex and delicate situation for them.

1. The US of A has moved a metric shiton of toys that can shoot down missiles all across the M/E. They got toys littered across all their bases in the region, and errbodys on high-alert.
2. Iran would have to launch atleast like 30-40% of their missles to get the damage required to achive parity in terms of destructive force against the israelis. If they do that though, Israel wipes em off the map. Britain and the US wouldnt need to even help that much (besides refuelling)
3. Iran is a one-trick pony. They put all their chips down on missle trch/drone tech and basically said meh to the rest of their conventional army. This approach definitely suits their geography but does categorically nothing against Israels air force.

Tl;dr: iran cant defend itself against israel, and its only deterrent gets it glassed if ever used in a decapitation-like strike, but it does have the means to destroy israel in kind ( obviously debatable)

I know iran looks weak as fuck right now and the israelis are curb-stomping them to the nines, but irans missile program is no joke. Iran deserves more respect than it gets because they are completely unaware of how hard it is to go toe to toe against israel, the us, and Britain, all while being sanctioned.
These missles are built underground, transported via a rail system and then fired underground where satellites cant trace em. Its actually very impressive for a ME country.


I think that's Iran's biggest problem, American + others support: even if USA isn't directly aiding the attack Iran has no way to effectively strike Israel, even if they have the volume & munitions on paper - the delivery is the problem.

This also means as many have said that a land invasion isn't feasible (it won't happen even if they want it, Israel doesnt have the men and American and vassals certainly won't support boots on the ground) so basically they have to aid and rely on the people of Iran to overthrow the regime, ball is in their court
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Jun 18 2025 07:58pm
I think that's Iran's biggest problem, American + others support: even if USA isn't directly aiding the attack Iran has no way to effectively strike Israel, even if they have the volume & munitions on paper - the delivery is the problem.

This also means as many have said that a land invasion isn't feasible (it won't happen even if they want it, Israel doesnt have the men and American and vassals certainly won't support boots on the ground) so basically they have to aid and rely on the people of Iran to overthrow the regime, ball is in their court


If Israel actually started to take real damage the USA would flatten Iran with the USA being fully backed by most other western countries.

I can still remember as a kid watching the daily video footage after 9/11 of USA's retaliation. I would be that on steroids if any real damage was done to Israel. Fairly certain Iran knows this.

And endless wave of strikes.

This post was edited by SBD on Jun 18 2025 07:59pm
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Jun 18 2025 10:19pm
Israel was founded 90 years ago, where is your cut off point? 90? 150? 200?


Elephant in the room is the illegal encroachment that continued to go on for 90 years after it was "founded."

My cut off point is being objectively moral and not a low-testosterone cuck for European "IZRAELEES," what's yours?
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Jun 18 2025 10:39pm
Elephant in the room is the illegal encroachment that continued to go on for 90 years after it was "founded."

My cut off point is being objectively moral and not a low-testosterone cuck for European "IZRAELEES," what's yours?


Can you show me a map of the original borders of the usa?
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Jun 18 2025 10:58pm
Direct hit on Soroka hospital.
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