The Western world needed a good obaying dog that would bark for them in that region. What better way than using desperation at the time and then significant investment by the West in the past 75 years including relocation of significant industry to help fuel and keep the dog healthy.

It's been a necessary evil for the West and to think it would be any different if for instance another Western country took the place of Israel I think would be incorrect. It's an extension of Western wishes and values. The West and Israel itself are more than happy to sacrifice a few of their own to have the excuse for full blown retaliation.

You might not like it, I might not like it but we use proxies for most conflicts and this situation isn't that much different. We have our dog, we keep it feed and it will bark when we need it and bite when we need it.

it's your taxes. not mine. LMAO. i can also name you my dog.

the relations are mutual. technoligies, R&D, knowledge, intelligence\black ops.. Israel and the U.S relations will always be secured. you can vote against it. will it work ? nope, America needs a representation and a pipeline in the middle east for it's own political and military reasons.

This post was edited by darksoho on Jun 18 2025 09:52am

I disagree, wholeheartedly. Israel has been overstepping many many times and they've proven an unworthy and unpredictable ally. You may be right about them being an extension of the West and especially the United States, which of course is entirely true. But like many of America's investments in allies.. it was an utter mistake and disaster.

Oh yeah Americans really are the last people you want to say this kind of thing to by the way. This is why Israel will fall. They do not respect America and its citizens.

you guys need to understand that those relations will stick safe on your time in planet earth.
you can only cry about it, it's been like that for a long long time way before Trump's days.

again - your emotions and riots do not worry me. the relations are mutual in aspects i commented above.

Israel is using buy-back from big portions of your taxes buddy. it feeds American military industries, those contracts exists for decades.

you can whine, it wont help.

That's exactly what I said... Feed the dog some money and economy and they carry out Western wishes.

It's mutual because you get your bone and a pat on the head.

This post was edited by SBD on Jun 18 2025 09:57am

Did you not read the bible you claim to fight for? Hubris was the fall of every one, including the Mizraim.

Is it? From a bleeding heart, empathetic and respect for human life and people, yes. From a tactical keeping an ally in arguably one of the shittiest parts of the world that's is always in turmoil and could put the world into full fledged conflict, it's not a disaster.

It has its purpose and that region is far from being out of a volitile state so keeping the dog on gaurd makes sense.

You may be able to argue they have overstepped and clearly they have, they have precision and shown it time and time again but don't view Palestinians as humans so they could care less about using that precision and happily kill kids and innocent people. This will undoubtedly keep things volitile as more extremists are born.

That's why I doubt this is some end all conflict and a new confiict will arise in 20 years or less and will have the same talking points.

This post was edited by SBD on Jun 18 2025 10:04am

Many American military strategists leave completely disillusioned with Israel and its 'unwavering' support. With how everything went in Afghanistan and Iraq? Israel tells us what to do. But the problem is the outcome they promise is always a lie. You can only do this so much.