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Jun 17 2025 08:28am
Is it me or did the goal posts get moved in about 48hours?

We were told these preemptive attacks were due to imminent threat of Iran getting nukes. Israel kills a bunch of leaders, and now it's all about finishing the regime once and for all? So regime change was the goal all along?


Israel IS NOT trying to regime change in Iran. That would imply replacing the government with something else, and Israel has never shown any indication of having this inclination. Iran has a massive population. Breaking Iran is not likely so the entire conflict is simply to teach Iran a lesson. This to my mind is short sighted. Israel is reinforcing into Iranian society/culture a grudge against them which will fester for years - decades, and any disgruntlement with Iranian leadership will now move to disgruntlement against Israel.

Alot of historials highlight that WW2 started after the harsh conditions imposed on Germany at the end of WW1. Israel is now repeating history, imposing conditions on Iran without a care in the world for tomorrow. It is inevitable that in creating all these enemies that something will happen within 10 years. This concept appears to be a complete mental challenge for Israelis'. From speaking with Israeli's on this site they simply dont understand that what they are doing is creating their enemies of tomorrow.

As repeatedly outlined, from a historic point of view it takes approx 10 years for the boomerang effect to take place.

This post was edited by ferdia on Jun 17 2025 08:34am
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The declared goal by the Israeli government is to eliminate the existential threat which is double :
1. Nukes
2. Ballistic missiles

So far the IDF seems to do a great job dealing with both.


With that logic ..We should attack China/Russia NKorea and everyone else with nukes... Israel is out of control .. unprovoked attacks on Iran is another insane move...
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Jun 17 2025 08:37am
With that logic ..We should attack China/Russia NKorea and everyone else with nukes... Israel is out of control .. unprovoked attacks on Iran is another insane move...


Basically , if they declare they want to eliminate you and are actively working toward that goal, the answer is yes.
There are solid indications, other than “they say so” you know..
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Jun 17 2025 08:40am
With that logic ..We should attack China/Russia NKorea and everyone else with nukes... Israel is out of control .. unprovoked attacks on Iran is another insane move...


he probably mis-typed.

Israel wants to:

1. prevent Iran from having nuclear technology (Iran does not have Nukes).
2. cripple Iran's military

basically, as an Israeli once said, they are "mowing the lawn".

If Iran had nukes Israel would not have attacked.

This post was edited by ferdia on Jun 17 2025 08:41am
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Jun 17 2025 08:48am
Basically , if they declare they want to eliminate you and are actively working toward that goal, the answer is yes.
There are solid indications, other than “they say so” you know..


We are wasting our time here, the Iranian regime stated numerous times and acted towards the annihilation of Israel and the US evetually.
We acted on our own, now the eagles are smelling the blood and wants to join in the success.
These tyrant regimes should be a thing of the past

This post was edited by Many_Names on Jun 17 2025 08:49am
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Jun 17 2025 08:49am
he probably mis-typed.

Israel wants to:

1. prevent Iran from having nuclear technology (Iran does not have Nukes).
2. cripple Iran's military

basically, as an Israeli once said, they are "mowing the lawn".

If Iran had nukes Israel would not have attacked.


Lmao - just let me correct you with something called "the reality"

1. Iran is doing everything they can ( lying, manipulating, building etc ) towards getting practical working nuclear bombs.
2. removing the threat Iran is posing on Israel, after years of using thier Proxies ( not a word on those ? )

basically, as an Israeli is telling you now: your opinions, ideas, perception etc of the middle east in general is lacking basics, simple stuff.

the problem with the likes of you ( and zorzin likes ) is that your motive from the beginning Anti-Israeli, and for the average Israeli
it's laughable. you can post in d2jsp as an outsider to the middle east and when i see those comments lacking sense and understanding of how things are, well.. this is the real level of this forum section.

you can't argue with trolls. you can, but.. how will it end ? in comments like the above.

This post was edited by darksoho on Jun 17 2025 08:49am
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Jun 17 2025 08:50am
Lmao - just let me correct you with something called "the reality"

1. Iran is doing everything they can ( lying, manipulating, building etc ) towards getting practical working nuclear bombs.
2. removing the threat Iran is posing on Israel, after years of using thier Proxies ( not a word on those ? )

basically, as an Israeli is telling you now: your opinions, ideas, perception etc of the middle east is general is lacking basics, simple stuff.

the problem with the likes of you ( and zorzin likes ) is that your motive from the beginning Anti-Israeli, and for the avarage Israeli
it's laughable. you can post in d2jsp as an outsider to the middle east and when i see those comments lacking sense and understanding of how things are, well.. this is the real level of this forum section.

you can't argue with trolls. you can, but.. how will it end ? in comments like the above.


He will take an anti Israel stance even if a new hitler would have built gas chambers and was annihilating Israelis
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Jun 17 2025 08:53am
He will take an anti Israel stance even if a new hitler would have built gas chambers and was annihilating Israelis


obviously.

there is really 0.0% sense when those idiots post stuff about warfare, about Iran.. taking WiKi pages without basics
of the middle east regimes, radical Islam, Proxies of Iran, why is 1979 revolution was starting point, how can Israel deal with an enemy who wants to nuke it ( and publicly declare so )

they are strangers to reality.

but they do need to deal with the fact that we are making history and we are here for good. they can cry about it, that's for sure.
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Jun 17 2025 08:58am
Lmao - just let me correct you with something called "the reality"

1. Iran is doing everything they can ( lying, manipulating, building etc ) towards getting practical working nuclear bombs.
2. removing the threat Iran is posing on Israel, after years of using thier Proxies ( not a word on those ? )

basically, as an Israeli is telling you now: your opinions, ideas, perception etc of the middle east in general is lacking basics, simple stuff.

the problem with the likes of you ( and zorzin likes ) is that your motive from the beginning Anti-Israeli, and for the average Israeli
it's laughable. you can post in d2jsp as an outsider to the middle east and when i see those comments lacking sense and understanding of how things are, well.. this is the real level of this forum section.

you can't argue with trolls. you can, but.. how will it end ? in comments like the above.


your argument has been said for 40 years and yet Iran still does not have nukes. i will repeat again what i said:

Israel wants to:

1. prevent Iran from having nuclear technology (Iran does not have Nukes).
2. cripple Iran's military

how are you disagreeing with this ? If this is not Israel's intention, then by all means feel free to give your opinion. Your argument is Iran wants to Nuke Israel, well, then, if Iran has nukes, why have they not Nuked Israel?

This post was edited by ferdia on Jun 17 2025 08:59am
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your argument has been said for 40 years and yet Iran still does not have nukes. i will repeat again what i said:

Israel wants to:

1. prevent Iran from having nuclear technology (Iran does not have Nukes).
2. cripple Iran's military

how are you disagreeing with this ? If this is not Israel's intention, then by all means feel free to give your opinion.


We were crippling them for 40 years, now they were one step too close.
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