Quote (zorzin @ Jun 16 2025 06:58pm)

Theres unfortunately no reliable public numbers. Some armchair experts cant infer an amount based on statements by public officials and sketchy video footage online, but its most definitely inaccurate.

Youre spot on about interceptor missiles and the very limited supply of them. Israel primarily uses davids sling and arrow2/3 for ballistic missles and the iron dome for low-altitude bottle rockets.( dont forget to thank uncle sam for the recent arrivals of the THAAD systems and GMD aswell and aegis systems on da boatys and the birds that shoot em down aswell)This whole tit-for-tat saga that began on april 1st when the israelis bombed that silly embassy has been an adventure by iran trying to see if israels aa/ad can be reliably penetrated -- it can.

Iran has thousands of missiles and can make them faster and cheaper than the usa can make interceptor missiles. This is the crux of the problem for israel. The houthis showed the world that even the fucking united states navy had to back off from the red sea cause cheap drones and a couple of ASMs can simply deplete a carrier groups stockpile of SM-3s.

Iran has enough missiles to completely destroy israel. So why is getting a nuke such a big deal, you might ask? Because it gives iran the ability to NEVER be susceptible to a ground invasion for the rest of history. This is something that their current stockpiles of missiles cant achieve, because as the israeli air force has shown, they are vulnerable to f35s (again, you can thank uncle sam for the birds and GEOINT). This gives iran the ability to immediately start funding its proxies more brazenly, because it no longer has to worry about defence. (The nukes will obviously be moved underground near the persian gulf, lying in wait for the eventual landing of marines)

Im kinda rambling on here but if youre curious about the real reason israel is attacking iran, its not because of irans nuclear aims. The only country in tbe world that can take out irans underground enrichment facilities is the US, with its b2s carrying GBU bunker busters. Israel is simply trying to drag the us into fucking up iran so it can no longer fund its proxies that are doing real harm to the Israelis.

Pay attention to china supplying pakistan with certain tech (DF-17 for example) uncle sam moving assets to the area (thaad, f22s etc) and russia supplying the whole region. As long as the big 3 keep supplying both sides, this shit aint ending anytime soon.

Basically the israelis have to leverage their air superiority over iran before iran gets enough toys to deter them. They chose this moment, so irans getting close. You should wiki iranian missles/drones and how fast that industry has advanced for them. People try to make the iranians out to be your typical incompetent arab, but their scientists and engineers aint no joke, and thier missle program is proof of that.

Who knows what stuff uncle sam gives the Israelis? Maybe they do have bunker busters
https://breakingdefense.com/2021/10/israel-to-request-americas-new-gbu-72-bunker-buster-bomb/

Quote (zorzin @ 17 Jun 2025 07:58)

Theres unfortunately no reliable public numbers. Some armchair experts cant infer an amount based on statements by public officials and sketchy video footage online, but its most definitely inaccurate.

Youre spot on about interceptor missiles and the very limited supply of them. Israel primarily uses davids sling and arrow2/3 for ballistic missles and the iron dome for low-altitude bottle rockets.( dont forget to thank uncle sam for the recent arrivals of the THAAD systems and GMD aswell and aegis systems on da boatys and the birds that shoot em down aswell)This whole tit-for-tat saga that began on april 1st when the israelis bombed that silly embassy has been an adventure by iran trying to see if israels aa/ad can be reliably penetrated -- it can.

Iran has thousands of missiles and can make them faster and cheaper than the usa can make interceptor missiles. This is the crux of the problem for israel. The houthis showed the world that even the fucking united states navy had to back off from the red sea cause cheap drones and a couple of ASMs can simply deplete a carrier groups stockpile of SM-3s.

Iran has enough missiles to completely destroy israel. So why is getting a nuke such a big deal, you might ask? Because it gives iran the ability to NEVER be susceptible to a ground invasion for the rest of history. This is something that their current stockpiles of missiles cant achieve, because as the israeli air force has shown, they are vulnerable to f35s (again, you can thank uncle sam for the birds and GEOINT). This gives iran the ability to immediately start funding its proxies more brazenly, because it no longer has to worry about defence. (The nukes will obviously be moved underground near the persian gulf, lying in wait for the eventual landing of marines)

Im kinda rambling on here but if youre curious about the real reason israel is attacking iran, its not because of irans nuclear aims. The only country in tbe world that can take out irans underground enrichment facilities is the US, with its b2s carrying GBU bunker busters. Israel is simply trying to drag the us into fucking up iran so it can no longer fund its proxies that are doing real harm to the Israelis.

Pay attention to china supplying pakistan with certain tech (DF-17 for example) uncle sam moving assets to the area (thaad, f22s etc) and russia supplying the whole region. As long as the big 3 keep supplying both sides, this shit aint ending anytime soon.

Basically the israelis have to leverage their air superiority over iran before iran gets enough toys to deter them. They chose this moment, so irans getting close. You should wiki iranian missles/drones and how fast that industry has advanced for them. People try to make the iranians out to be your typical incompetent arab, but their scientists and engineers aint no joke, and thier missle program is proof of that.

Who knows what stuff uncle sam gives the Israelis? Maybe they do have bunker busters
https://breakingdefense.com/2021/10/israel-to-request-americas-new-gbu-72-bunker-buster-bomb/

Quote (thesnipa @ Jun 17 2025 03:09pm)

thanks for the reply! read it all and about mirrored what i had in mind. they have deep missile supplies, makes sense given they havent had to use many if any in recent history but have been gearing up consistently.

Quote (ferdia @ 17 Jun 2025 16:13)

calling someone dumb or retarded is a personal attack. I was happily surprised to see that your post has already been reported.

Quote (zorzin @ Jun 17 2025 12:58am)

Theres unfortunately no reliable public numbers. Some armchair experts cant infer an amount based on statements by public officials and sketchy video footage online, but its most definitely inaccurate.

Youre spot on about interceptor missiles and the very limited supply of them. Israel primarily uses davids sling and arrow2/3 for ballistic missles and the iron dome for low-altitude bottle rockets.( dont forget to thank uncle sam for the recent arrivals of the THAAD systems and GMD aswell and aegis systems on da boatys and the birds that shoot em down aswell)This whole tit-for-tat saga that began on april 1st when the israelis bombed that silly embassy has been an adventure by iran trying to see if israels aa/ad can be reliably penetrated -- it can.

Iran has thousands of missiles and can make them faster and cheaper than the usa can make interceptor missiles. This is the crux of the problem for israel. The houthis showed the world that even the fucking united states navy had to back off from the red sea cause cheap drones and a couple of ASMs can simply deplete a carrier groups stockpile of SM-3s.

Iran has enough missiles to completely destroy israel. So why is getting a nuke such a big deal, you might ask? Because it gives iran the ability to NEVER be susceptible to a ground invasion for the rest of history. This is something that their current stockpiles of missiles cant achieve, because as the israeli air force has shown, they are vulnerable to f35s (again, you can thank uncle sam for the birds and GEOINT). This gives iran the ability to immediately start funding its proxies more brazenly, because it no longer has to worry about defence. (The nukes will obviously be moved underground near the persian gulf, lying in wait for the eventual landing of marines)

Im kinda rambling on here but if youre curious about the real reason israel is attacking iran, its not because of irans nuclear aims. The only country in tbe world that can take out irans underground enrichment facilities is the US, with its b2s carrying GBU bunker busters. Israel is simply trying to drag the us into fucking up iran so it can no longer fund its proxies that are doing real harm to the Israelis.

Pay attention to china supplying pakistan with certain tech (DF-17 for example) uncle sam moving assets to the area (thaad, f22s etc) and russia supplying the whole region. As long as the big 3 keep supplying both sides, this shit aint ending anytime soon.

Basically the israelis have to leverage their air superiority over iran before iran gets enough toys to deter them. They chose this moment, so irans getting close. You should wiki iranian missles/drones and how fast that industry has advanced for them. People try to make the iranians out to be your typical incompetent arab, but their scientists and engineers aint no joke, and thier missle program is proof of that.

Who knows what stuff uncle sam gives the Israelis? Maybe they do have bunker busters
https://breakingdefense.com/2021/10/israel-to-request-americas-new-gbu-72-bunker-buster-bomb/

Quote (ofthevoid @ Jun 17 2025 05:08pm)

Is it me or did the goal posts get moved in about 48hours?

We were told these preemptive attacks were due to imminent threat of Iran getting nukes. Israel kills a bunch of leaders, and now it's all about finishing the regime once and for all? So regime change was the goal all along?