Sure,

I hear this brought up often that Mossad is top tier intelligence, but seldom substantiated with evidence. How did they get caught so off guard about Oct Invasion?

As for strategic positioning, US can position its Navy to strategically impact any part of ME. The ground game is negligible minus some ports.


As for helping other countries, 100% it's good for US diplomacy and foreign policy direction. Its also simultaneously true Israel receives a disproportionate amount of US aid (hundreds of billions with billions annually) with pathetic returns (liabilities)

This post was edited by RedFromWinter on Jun 15 2025 03:05pm

A bit of a tinfoil stretch IMO. Reuters was the agency that had two of their journalist gunned down by US military in Iraq if memory serves right. They have definitely made blunders, but have done much better remedying them. I recall their executive leadership board, at least for the Thomson legal side of business (former f&r) being almost entirely British nationals. Surprising when it was supposed to be a merging of equals between Reuters and Thomson back in 08'.

That's fair, my assessment is that Reuters is a propaganda tentacle of the now-dying LWO (so-called liberal world order, otherwise called the old regime) of which Britain is closely associated

They're always machinating their fake news in support of the LWO, but these aren't very smart people so they make alot of mistakes

This post was edited by El1te on Jun 15 2025 03:14pm

i stand by my position with the caveat that my initial wording was poor.

I agree with Elite's position.

This post was edited by ferdia on Jun 15 2025 05:22pm

Are we still saying after all of the Mossad moves we've seen on display, that Israel was well and true caught off guard about 10/7?

Yes, the US has overstated the importance of Israel for a long time. But it's a sunk cost fallacy at this point. The many politicians, especially the insanely brazen ones like Mike Huckabee cannot recover politically because their ties to Israel are so strong that if the narrative turns on Israel, it also turns on them, even more so. I think a lot of them are realizing that most of the west is sick of Israel and the gaslighting isn't working anymore.

Mossad absolutely knew and let it happen. Israel is always looking for justifications and narratives that make them look like the "victim". Its been the number 1 out of their playbook since 1948.

Israel uses its civilians as human shields. More than Hamas does. Every Israeli accusation is really a confession.

Its not mossads job its the Shin Bet job to recognize incoming attacks.
But keep the conspiracy going 🤦

This post was edited by Many_Names on Jun 15 2025 07:40pm

So we're saying Shin Bet was caught completely off guard for 10/7?

They were, they believed Hamas wouldnt try something as bold as they did.