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Jun 10 2025 08:29am
Seems more like naked authoritarianism than fascism, and if anything is the opposite brand of authoritian school of thought. Fascism was derived from a belief that a population united by fervent devotion to a centralized authority made them stronger than a fractious society with disparate interests. The fasces reflected this in roman authority, the italians modelled it after them. The covidian tyrants were more concerned with stamping out and punishing dissenters than trying to unite society or achieve a more powerful country. It was vindictive and petty and self-serving, opportunistic politicians and corporate profiteers and politicized hatemongers. They all served their own interests, and none of the ever said a goddamn thing about putting America first, thats for sure.

I've always been baffled at the degenerated discourse around fascism and nazism. You don't defeat a pernicious ideology by turning it into a generic label and boogeyman and stripping its reasoning away and boiling it down until it has no meaning. Its how Democrats see Nazis in their alphabet soup but not in Ukraine. Deconstruct an argument and show it to be wrong. Find someone who genuinely believes in racial purity and eugenics and explain to them that in a few short generations we'll be capable of edting genomes willy nilly and racial divides will be arbitrary.


Labelling theory mirrors drug use. initially it gives a strong solid consistent response, whether its popping pain pills or calling someone a Nazi. and this effect is addictive, its like you've found a dopamine easy button. the loss of effectiveness is slow but steady, fast forward a year and you're popping 5x the pills or calling anyone right of Al Gore a nazi. eventually you're either shooting up heroin or convinced you're a 1930s german who needs to burn down things to prevent the end of the world. its all a dopamine game, most of it is actually subconscious. those who water down terminology will listen to reason no more than a drug addict who attacks you when you Narcan them to save their life because you ruined their high.
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Jun 10 2025 09:14am
I'd rather see some arrests for vandalism and arson than marines and national guard mobilized without congressional approval.
Congress' silence is damning.
Trump thinks he's king because he's not being checked
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Jun 10 2025 09:40am
I'd rather see some arrests for vandalism and arson than marines and national guard mobilized without congressional approval.
Congress' silence is damning.
Trump thinks he's king because he's not being checked
History will not remember him well


history remembers quite well that in times of violence the president always acts, not congress.

by the time that congress meets, debates, votes, revises legislation, then votes again, then it's signed, the whole thing will likely be over. or at least the underlying facts will have changed enough to make the legislation unviable.

i dont think the national guard here is a good look either, but its not because national guard present the scary threat most people claim. its because the riots themselves have been largely overblown, most of the events have taken place in 1-2 square blocks, mostly around ICE headquarters in LA.

this could of course change, and has. there's been some expansion, and last night looting was reported for the first time since the start. usually once the looting starts things get out of hand, FAST.

in this sense trump may have accidentally done good, because national guard will already be present to prevent looting, when typically they're called in once looting has ransacked entire business sectors.

its a mess, caused by bad messaging on both sides. Newsom and the LA mayor pretending things are fine when they're clearly escalating. Trump and co. pretending its apocalyptic already, when its just brewing and localized currently.
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Jun 10 2025 10:30am
I'd rather see some arrests for vandalism and arson than marines and national guard mobilized without congressional approval.
Congress' silence is damning.
Trump thinks he's king because he's not being checked
History will not remember him well


We all would. Whose fault is it? Democrats *refuse* to enforce the law

Blame here is squarely on CA and LA governance. They're derelict in their duty and have abdicated authority to Donald Trump. Kings are great when you have weak, incompetent, and downright subversive and treasonous local governance

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Jun 10 2025 11:08am
We all would. Whose fault is it? Democrats *refuse* to enforce the law

Blame here is squarely on CA and LA governance. They're derelict in their duty and have abdicated authority to Donald Trump. Kings are great when you have weak, incompetent, and downright subversive and treasonous local governance


which law? dozens of arrests are made daily. the 101 highway blockage was broken up. police officers are detaining and questioning hundreds of people per day. and as of yet the destruction is nothing compared to the riots in MN-St Paul.
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Jun 10 2025 11:11am
which law? dozens of arrests are made daily. the 101 highway blockage was broken up. police officers are detaining and questioning hundreds of people per day. and as of yet the destruction is nothing compared to the riots in MN-St Paul.


Basic laws against wanton destruction and looting? These are not protests, they are violent riots which are very much illegal. Arresting a couple people to feign that they're doing something is weak.

LAPD was ordered to stand down and not protect ICE. Lol. That's outright treason

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Jun 10 2025 11:29am
That you think Milo Yiannopoulos is the "best looking gay guy" is just confirmation of my point. B)


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Basic laws against wanton destruction and looting? These are not protests, they are violent riots which are very much illegal. Arresting a couple people to feign that they're doing something is weak.

LAPD was ordered to stand down and not protect ICE. Lol. That's outright treason


you're consuming too much biased reporting. the destruction thusfar has been very localized and last night was the first report of looting. if there has even been a case of "mostly peaceful protests" this current event in LA fits the bill so far. that may and likely will change, these protests dont generally diffuse without a typifying event or at the very least a curfew, but we're simply not there yet.

the failure of the democrats in california thusfar isn't an issue of law, it's an issue of messaging. they should be doing overtime to prevent escalation with their narratives, instead they're pretending that escalation is unlikely and a GOP talking point. Newsom is posturing for a 2028 run a POTUS, and its clouding his actions as governor. he actually wants people to get arrested en masse, he wants gas canisters shot into crowds. what the GOP should want isn't mass arrests, its national guard presence without it turning into Kansas State. but people are just as clouded as newsom and want revenge, never underestimate the right or left's ability to give away a lead.

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Jun 10 2025 11:44am
1 dead now in the riots, unknown circumstances;

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A death investigation is underway Tuesday after a man’s body was found on a sidewalk in an area of Downtown Los Angeles that has been the site of recent protests and lootings.
Police were called to the area of West 3rd Street and Broadway shortly after 1:30 a.m., where they found the unresponsive man, a spokesperson for the Los Angeles Police Department confirmed to KTLA.
Video showed investigators at the scene standing next to the man, who was lying on his back wearing a red sweatshirt.
The spokesperson said the cause of death was under investigation.
The T-Mobile store at the intersection was one of several businesses that were looted the night before as immigration protests turned violent.
The spokesperson said it was unknown whether the man’s death was related to any protests or looting.


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1 dead now in the riots, unknown circumstances;


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