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https://diablo.fandom.com/wiki/Vengeance_(Diablo_II)

Other than War Trav what gear would work for vengeance. I am level 60 with a crescent moon phase blade and my war trav increase my damage by 25%, what other gear could i use?

I am thinking the paladin set has lots of open sockets for ias/max damage/min damage jewels if i go this route what are the perfect jewels to use. I forgot if you can get 15min 15 max or 15ias with 15max.

Max damage charms are expensive so i would prefer to focus on gear atm

This post was edited by lamens on May 28 2025 11:47am
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Below is an old as guide just for fun, later found using 1 base Zeal more often. It says there are better things to add into the sockets and is up to the player., also a added a quote from another person who replied to the guide back then. NOTE: The build is intentional to lightning because it was easier to remove immune to lightning.
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~@~ Gris Set LIGHT Avenger ~@~

I got bored, so I decided to do the usual, and post an old build that I used in 1.10.
You will probably have alot of questions, maybe just call me a noob or whatever,
my suggestion, just say what you want, it is about discussing things anyway.

Let us get started, first of all, I wanted a Noob looking character in pub games.
Help team with conviction aura and also be able to kill, on occassions Pub kill FCzons
and the occassional noob trapper and light sorcs.

Attributes (Stats):
Strength: NONE
Dexterity: Enough for equipment after other items or you can opt for max block.
Vitality: Rest
Energy: NONE

Skills:
20 Vengeance
20 Conviction
20 Light Resistance
20 Holy Shield
1 Salvation
1 Pre Requisites

Note: After all quests you should be finished at lvl81 for skills. NOW the extra points from there
is entirely up to you as in what to do.

Why I chose to Max out Light Resistance Synergy
In PvM, Lightning is a very strong element, if not the strongest. Also lightning immune is one of the easiest resistances to remove with Conviction.

Pre Note: Using Cadaceus weapon you will need to reach 109%ias to get last bp.
40% on Gris wpn
75% from 5x 15%ias jewels
115% ias Total with this setup.

Items:
Gris Helm:
- Cham = Cannot Be Frozen
- 40ed/15ias jewel = self explanatory
Gris Armor:
- 40ed/15ias jewel = self explanatory
- 40ed/15ias jewel = self explanatory
- 40ed/15ias jewel = self explanatory
Gris Weapon: Automatic 40%ias
- Ber - Crushing Blow
- Ber - Crushing Blow
- Ber - Crushing Blow
- Zod = Indestructible = But you can choose any other option
Gris Shield
- Minus 15 req jewel with any mods
- 40ed/15ias jewel = self explanatory
- Light Facet = You can choose anything
Boots:
- Sandstorm Treks
Ammy:
- Mara's/Seraphs/Angelics
Ring1:
- Rare mana leech/15+ str
Ring2
- Bk/Soj/Angelics
Belt:
- Tgods = 20str is what you are after or anything to your choosing
Gloves:
- Draculs Grasp No other.

Switch:
Cta
Spirit

Inventory:
Besides the standard Torch/Anni, the rest is up to you, with this build you can use more mf charms, dmg/ar/life Anything.
Also with the Medium Armor and Shield, you will notice your run walk speed to be slow, so you may want some frw sc's with
mods to help you out.

Complete Set Bonus
+3 To Paladin Skill Levels
+30% Faster Hit Recovery
+200 To Attack Rating
+20 To Strength
+30 To Dexterity
+150 To Life
All Resistances +50
Display Aura

View Arreat on Item Bonuses:
http://www.battle.net/diablo2exp/items/sets/sets5.shtml#griswoldslegacy

End Note:
Yes there are better setups, there are better items, there are a ton of cookies out, but this is just for the Hell of it, and if you are in pub game and kill while people calling you a noob, on the inside you can just laugh at them.


I made this on single player, instead of putting a zod or ber runes in the weapon, I used ohm runes as you really want enhanced damage on your main. Then I put 15 max damage 15 IAS jewels in everything else (except the shield, I put ums in that) and I maxed out
Holy Shield
Vengeance
Enough into Conviction to hit lvl 25
Resist Lightning
1 point Defiance (its a nice 1 point wonder synergy for the passive bonus and Holy shield)
and then I divided my points evenly between Resist Cold and Resist Fire

I used half an inventory full of 3/20/20's and then I used a perfect torch, annihilus, and 3 Pcombs. I hit roughly 3-5k on screen vengeance damage with 4.5k life. The actual damage is probably much much higher, but that is still impressive for Griswold's set.

Fun guide, I give it a 10/10.


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Gris Helm:
- Cham = Cannot Be Frozen
- 40ed/15ias jewel = self explanatory
Gris Armor:
- 40ed/15ias jewel = self explanatory
- 40ed/15ias jewel = self explanatory
- 40ed/15ias jewel = self explanatory
Gris Weapon: Automatic 40%ias
- Ber - Crushing Blow
- Ber - Crushing Blow
- Ber - Crushing Blow
- Zod = Indestructible = But you can choose any other option
Gris Shield
- Minus 15 req jewel with any mods
- 40ed/15ias jewel = self explanatory


:wallbash: Enhanced damage doesn't work with vengeance when its not on the weapon :wallbash: also 3 ber runes :wacko:


But with that said this guide helps give me direction, thank you!
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May 28 2025 10:22pm
:wallbash: Enhanced damage doesn't work with vengeance when its not on the weapon :wallbash: also 3 ber runes :wacko:


But with that said this guide helps give me direction, thank you!


Thanks. I initially posted it to give direction, how you take the socket items are up to you.

EDIT: I posted a 1.09 / 1.10 build that I played and it worked ... it is a very old build, yet works? damn.

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Vengeance is total ass. Theres like nothing to make it somewhat useful. It just needs too much to deal good dmg and if you opt for max dmg you aint hitting anything since ar is big issue.

Ive tried many different vengeance builds but it just feels like a elemental zealer that hits slow
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Vengeance is total ass. Theres like nothing to make it somewhat useful. It just needs too much to deal good dmg and if you opt for max dmg you aint hitting anything since ar is big issue.

Ive tried many different vengeance builds but it just feels like a elemental zealer that hits slow


I hav et o agree there, it's like, first time i tried it, i thought that it would use ALL 3 elements each time ....... taht would actually be cool .. and perhaps worthwhile .. but alternating.. the damage is mitigated, n not worth it .. sadly. It sound cool on paper but's not actually too good in reality..... I guess if you pile on the ele dmg, use a high ele dmg weapon n such, n use high level conviction, thee damage will be big, but bit enough? ... n then there are shields like medusa gaze, it gives that lower resist curse on self struck, that's 30% more damage right there, though tnot 100% of the time, but 50-60% of te time....... n if you want, you can use the lower resist wand on switch to get it it upfront, specilly again bosses..... if one want to cast asided the bo or can't afford him.....
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I hav et o agree there, it's like, first time i tried it, i thought that it would use ALL 3 elements each time ....... taht would actually be cool .. and perhaps worthwhile .. but alternating.. the damage is mitigated, n not worth it .. sadly. It sound cool on paper but's not actually too good in reality..... I guess if you pile on the ele dmg, use a high ele dmg weapon n such, n use high level conviction, thee damage will be big, but bit enough? ... n then there are shields like medusa gaze, it gives that lower resist curse on self struck, that's 30% more damage right there, though tnot 100% of the time, but 50-60% of te time....... n if you want, you can use the lower resist wand on switch to get it it upfront, specilly again bosses..... if one want to cast asided the bo or can't afford him.....


Best build in my experience was pretty much basic fanta melee build and conv from merc. Focusing on boosting ele dmg via +% felt completely useless and adding flat ele dmg from scs or gear is just sad add. Having no leech also sucks so need redemption or loads of pots.

You could go self conv and a1 faith merc too but i hate the shit ai that rogue mercs have making them walk around confused like my co-worker.
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Jun 11 2025 03:28am
Forgot to mention the insane mana cost. Its insane
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Vengeance is total ass. Theres like nothing to make it somewhat useful. It just needs too much to deal good dmg and if you opt for max dmg you aint hitting anything since ar is big issue.

Ive tried many different vengeance builds but it just feels like a elemental zealer that hits slow


It isnt the best skill but the main advantage of vengeance is the conviction aura. Without getting any attack rating i was never really missing (convicton merc is best merc to increase hit chance on attacking builds).

With FOH buffed ind D2R it just makes since to just use foh with conviction. Pretty much just comes down to wanting to play something else than foh in group play (also venge is a front line so the conviction aura is more consistent than a merc or backline caster in party play)

I hav et o agree there, it's like, first time i tried it, i thought that it would use ALL 3 elements each time ....... taht would actually be cool .. and perhaps worthwhile .. but alternating.. the damage is mitigated, n not worth it .. sadly. It sound cool on paper but's not actually too good in reality..... I guess if you pile on the ele dmg, use a high ele dmg weapon n such, n use high level conviction, thee damage will be big, but bit enough? ... n then there are shields like medusa gaze, it gives that lower resist curse on self struck, that's 30% more damage right there, though tnot 100% of the time, but 50-60% of te time....... n if you want, you can use the lower resist wand on switch to get it it upfront, specilly again bosses..... if one want to cast asided the bo or can't afford him.....


It does do all 3 damage types at once. Aura pallys will use it as a one point wonder to help with immunes.

The veng wiki posted at the top seems to explain what you wanted (high phys wep, no enhanced damage off of the weapon). I didnt need a lower res wand and ended up preferring a tele staff but did have one just in case.

Like the other poster said above Venge attacks slow as ass though so you also want massive ias. The Gris set is decent on him and i would build again on ladder start with group play if i found a cheap full set (the weapon can be expensive with ED + ias/damage jewels but sheal is acceptable early on in the weapon)

This post was edited by lamens on Jun 11 2025 06:25am
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It isnt the best skill but the main advantage of vengeance is the conviction aura. Without getting any attack rating i was never really missing (convicton merc is best merc to increase hit chance on attacking builds).

With FOH buffed ind D2R it just makes since to just use foh with conviction. Pretty much just comes down to wanting to play something else than foh in group play (also venge is a front line so the conviction aura is more consistent than a merc or backline caster in party play)



It does do all 3 damage types at once. Aura pallys will use it as a one point wonder to help with immunes.

The veng wiki posted at the top seems to explain what you wanted (high phys wep, no enhanced damage off of the weapon). I didnt need a lower res wand and ended up preferring a tele staff but did have one just in case.

Like the other poster said above Venge attacks slow as ass though so you also want massive ias. The Gris set is decent on him and i would build again on ladder start with group play if i found a cheap full set (the weapon can be expensive with ED + ias/damage jewels but sheal is acceptable early on in the weapon)


Beast is pretty nice weapon if one doesnt want conv merc. Insight cure prayer merc could be nice since mana and hp regens succc. That way you could have conv aura on your pala instead

This post was edited by Lisko on Jun 11 2025 06:35am
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