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Jun 7 2025 01:09pm
And he's received his due process at each step. Which is just the process he is due. Illegal aliens aren't entitled to criminal hearings or presumption of innocence to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt, we simply need to determine their status and deport them. And his status was correctly determined to be an illegal alien subject to deportation. That he was erroneously deported to the wrong country doesn't violate his rights like the way our country's rights are violated when a judge erroneously granted him a stay of deportation on the basis that he had murdered a woman in El Salvador and could face retribution. Now he is facing criminal charges and has been extradited and has all the benefits of due process, the presumption of innocence and the onus is on the government to prove his guilt for his lifetime of human trafficking, abusing women and girls, soliciting child pornography and murdering women.

This is the guy Democrats went to bat for in the most over the top fashion. Well dayum, Travyon Martin and George Floyd really are saints by comparison


All the effort could have been easily avoided if they did it right the first time
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Jun 7 2025 02:30pm
All the effort could have been easily avoided if they did it right the first time


It's pretty embarassing that you've been saying the same stupid nonsense daily for nearly 2 months on a gaming website that has 0% influence on anything political in the USA.

If you're interested, I heard MS13 is hiring, since you support these members.
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Jun 7 2025 03:07pm
All the effort could have been easily avoided if they did it right the first time


Sure could, but they aren't omniscient. The guy becoming a national news story brought all his criminal past into the path of an investigation.
What are the screwups in this story?

A judge halted a deportation to El Salvador on the basis that an MS13 member could face retribution from a rival gang... after murdering a rival gang member's mother. Absolutely insane, even if the judge just thought it was for being in a rival gang, that's already fucked logic.
The order wasn't lifted in a timely fashion even when El Salvador became a safer country than the USA, nor retroactively when he got deported and it should have been moot.
He was deported in error. A pretty minor mistake, considering that the correct process would have been to lift the moot order, then deport him.
Democrats rallied around an MS13 gang member despite all kinds of public evidence he was a hardened MS13 criminal, including it being right on his knuckles in code.
Trump mistakenly thought a picture of his knuckles had the decoded text as real tattoos by misreading the image, whoopdeedoo.
The DoJ found out the guy was actually a prolific trafficker, rapist, murderer, child sex fiend, etc. Except its not really a fuck-up because they had no way to know, and he was safely detained in El Salvador, and they extradited and charged him now they have all the evidence of his lifetime in criminal enterprise.
Democrats continue to rally around this guy even when he's outed as being a living index of the criminal codes <---- you are here

Sen Van Hollen celebrated his return and said garcia is 'owed an apology'. Rep Ivey championed him as 'wrongfully imprisoned' and a 'critical conversation'.
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Jun 8 2025 01:05am
Sure could, but they aren't omniscient. The guy becoming a national news story brought all his criminal past into the path of an investigation.
What are the screwups in this story?

A judge halted a deportation to El Salvador on the basis that an MS13 member could face retribution from a rival gang... after murdering a rival gang member's mother. Absolutely insane, even if the judge just thought it was for being in a rival gang, that's already fucked logic.
The order wasn't lifted in a timely fashion even when El Salvador became a safer country than the USA, nor retroactively when he got deported and it should have been moot.
He was deported in error. A pretty minor mistake, considering that the correct process would have been to lift the moot order, then deport him.
Democrats rallied around an MS13 gang member despite all kinds of public evidence he was a hardened MS13 criminal, including it being right on his knuckles in code.
Trump mistakenly thought a picture of his knuckles had the decoded text as real tattoos by misreading the image, whoopdeedoo.
The DoJ found out the guy was actually a prolific trafficker, rapist, murderer, child sex fiend, etc. Except its not really a fuck-up because they had no way to know, and he was safely detained in El Salvador, and they extradited and charged him now they have all the evidence of his lifetime in criminal enterprise.
Democrats continue to rally around this guy even when he's outed as being a living index of the criminal codes <---- you are here

Sen Van Hollen celebrated his return and said garcia is 'owed an apology'. Rep Ivey championed him as 'wrongfully imprisoned' and a 'critical conversation'.


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2. The law can't allow mistakes like this in procedure. Obviously, that's why he is back.

As a sidenote: you guys all ignore that the Trump administration straight up lied when they said they couldn't bring him back, don't you? Was clearly no problem.

As a sidenote to the idiots commenting on my posts while not understanding them: of course I am repeating myself, this is how principles work. Rule of law is important to me, therefore it is infiurating when it is not followed. This doesn't change over time, why would it?

I also really do not care about Garcia, if he is guilty jail him, if not deport him somewhere legally. Just don't have "minor fuckups" or "administrative errors" to deport people to a high security detention center and then claim you can't bring them back while ignoring court orders.
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Jun 8 2025 01:28am
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2. The law can't allow mistakes like this in procedure. Obviously, that's why he is back.


I mean yes, it can. The most normal way for the law to deal with mistakes or accidents is to not deal with them. Not every state of affairs requires injunctive relief, nor do courts have jurisdiction or capability to remedy most harms.
The reason this guy is back is because he committed a lifetime of felonies for which he will be prosecuted. Not so that he can roleplay a human yo-yo and be brought from an El Salvadoran prison to America just to enter an immigration court, have his protective order lifted, be deported back to El Salvador and put back in the same prison.

The actual harm of errors matters. If two errors cancel each other out, there's no real harm. Garcia should never have been granted a deportation hold in the first place, and it should have been lifted years ago when its premise was completely negated, and when he was deported despite that hold, no real harm occurred. If the system had worked properly, the outcome would have been exactly the same. And once the DoJ investigated his criminal history and had reason to extradite him, we got him back safely, the interim time between US and ES detention giving him no chance to escape justice.
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https://x.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1940984105862418612

Kilmar Garcia has filed in court in the US claiming he was subjected to torture in El Salvadoran prison. Per his account:
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Kilmar Abrego Garcia said he suffered severe beatings, severe sleep deprivation and psychological torture in the notorious El Salvador prison the Trump administration had deported him to in March, according to court documents filed Wednesday.
He said he was kicked and hit so often after arrival that by the following day, he had visible bruises and lumps all over his body. He said he and 20 others were forced to kneel all night long and guards hit anyone who fell.


In response, El Salvador has released videos of him in his jail cell, under apparently completely normal and humane conditions
https://x.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1940984105862418612

Again, the problem of trying to make up a narrative when you're in someone else's tightly controlled court. The one retard flew over there for a photo op and they served them margaritas to embarrass him, now Kilmar is saying he was beaten and sleep deprived, and instead we get video of a clean jail cell
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