I disagree it's a left/right issue. It's a humanitarian issue. You see very right far leaning people like candice owen and tucker carlson now openly speaking out against the horrors israel is inflicting on a majority civilian population and if was just about a few hamas soldiers it would have been over a long time ago, but it's not about Israel funded Hamas, it's about getting control over entire gaza and establishing and expanding israeli territory as blatantly said by israeli officials..

The BBC is controlled by the British Government since 2017. The BBC has multiple Pro-Israeli operators inside it. The British Government continues to support Israel. These things are facts.
Here is a YouGov poll, sometimes its interesting to read these things : https://yougov.co.uk/international/articles/52279-net-favourability-towards-israel-reaches-new-lows-in-key-western-european-countries

the TLDR here is that certain western governments may change hands over their complicity with Israel's actions (Gaza; The West Bank) in providing military aid and political support.



You are suggesting that Hamas would abduct and take hostage western journalists. This is on the lower end of plausible.

Some of your posts in this thread are patently false. I accept that this is a highly emotive topic but the Oct 7th Attack was not an attack against activists. Two users invited you to correct your statement but you did not. As an other user said: there are no sanctions for posting BS.

Understand I agree with you on a lot of issues but the world would be a dull place if we agreed on everything.

Meanwhile, our princess, Greta Thunberg along with Liam Cunningham (Sir Davos from Game of Thrones) are sailing to Israel in a humanitarian flotilla with an expectation of being...accosted, at some point over the next 4 days by Israel. My thoughts and prayers are with Greta and Liam.

This post was edited by ferdia on Jun 5 2025 03:35am

The recent excesses of the Israelis are going too far and are facing increasing pushback by Israel's Western allies. This does not, however, retroactively affirm the flood of anti-semitic talking points and Hamas propaganda which were disseminated since Oct 7. Nor does it affect the general contour of this battle over public opinion: the political center and right (with the exception of the far right fringes) seeing Israel as largely legitimate in its self-defense and Hamas as the villains, while the political left sees Israel as a genocidal apartheid state and the true villains in this conflict.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Jun 5 2025 12:35pm

now everyone sees israels as a genocidal apartheid state and the true villans in this conflict. It's amazing that such a truth has united the media despite its biases.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/israeli-navy-gears-up-to-block-high-profile-protest-ship-headed-for-gaza/

Tomorrow i think, maybe sunday? but i think tomorrow. If they board the boat the activists will be living in a very interesting time.
The problem for Israel is that they have lost the ability to demonstrate restraint. Greta and Co. will be viewed as Hamas supporting sympathizers so anything could happen.

This post was edited by ferdia on Jun 6 2025 04:49am

I mean Israel will never let that wretched boat anywhere near the Gazan coast would they?

IMO Israel Should let them come to Gaza, sink the boat afterward. Let them stay in Gaza for few months to show their support.

I'd say just send a little torpedo and sink it when it comes within range as it's a direct attack on the coast

ye kill them all, they are less then human, hamas sympathizers rewr rewr!

that would be one of the stupidest things israel has done to date. I remember Einstein had a quote about stupidity.

what i would say is and are moderates, and if this is your view, then the next couple of days will be VERY interesting, noting I have both of you on the more moderate end of the spectrum.

This post was edited by ferdia on Jun 6 2025 03:02pm