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May 30 2025 01:18pm
The hospital tunnels were virtually proven, the only outstanding question is if it was a "command hub" or not. which seems fairly moot.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/20/middleeast/gaza-tunnel-shaft-al-shifa-hospital-intl-hnk

its also no illogical, they wanted sites that before war were not bomb-able. schools, hospitals, mosques, all prime sites for that.


i disagree with this assertion.
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May 30 2025 01:19pm
2million arabs which represent over 20% of the population live and work in Israel. There is no apartheid, that's a complete myth. Gazans are not Israeli citizens, why would they have freedom to go within Israel?


if they are not israeli citizens, what are they? and what are the palestinians in the westbank ?

you cant say there is no palestine and then say there is no apartheid.
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The hospital tunnels were virtually proven, the only outstanding question is if it was a "command hub" or not. which seems fairly moot.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/20/middleeast/gaza-tunnel-shaft-al-shifa-hospital-intl-hnk

its also no illogical, they wanted sites that before war were not bomb-able. schools, hospitals, mosques, all prime sites for that.


i disagree with this assertion.


lol
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lol


CNN has repeatedly been pulled up for media bias and similar to the BBC it is no longer a neutral source. a bit like how Reuters is a media wing for the United States instead of being a reputable media outlet.
all 3 of them used to be brilliant. i have not looked closely at CNN and Reuters, i guess i can look at them in my spare time to educate myself. but the BBC fell back in 2017 when the British government eviscerated its board.


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you're in a PVP zone, anyone in this blood moor is looking for ears.

didnt used to be that way, but 2016 broke this place.

Sorry for the offtopic, but as someone who only joined PaRD in 2017, I'm genuinely curious why that specific election or cycle broke this sub.



40% of Gaza victims being 'children' is also a very disingenuous framing

Hamas recruits tend to be very young, a boy that's 15-18 is technically a child but once they pick up an ak or chose to fire an RPG at Israelis they lose that label in my mind.


Nearly half of Gaza's population is younger than 18 to begin with. According to the 2023 article below, their population share stood at 47% back then. So if someone says that "40% of Gaza victims are children", he actually argues that Israel is NOT specifically targetting children.

https://www.npr.org/2023/10/19/1206479861/israel-gaza-hamas-children-population-war-palestinians

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Sorry for the offtopic, but as someone who only joined PaRD in 2017, I'm genuinely curious why that specific election or cycle broke this sub.


thats probably touching a matter which users are not allowed to talk about :P
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Perfidy has real consequences which I warned about when this war started

No one has any ground to stand on to make Israel the bad guy here with respect to the Gaza war, and that's because Gaza has employed the most inhuman scumbag perfidy tactics which our civilization eradicated centuries ago
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If Greta Thunberg is held hostage by Hamas is Israel obligated to bargain for her release?
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If Greta Thunberg is held hostage by Hamas is Israel obligated to bargain for her release?


based on recent history, the more likely scenario is that the Israeli's will kill her ( such as the previous attack by Israel ).
there are currently an estimated 24 hostages still alive in Gaza, and 9623 hostages held by Israel (no one talks about these).
Perfidy has real consequences which I warned about when this war started

No one has any ground to stand on to make Israel the bad guy here with respect to the Gaza war, and that's because Gaza has employed the most inhuman scumbag perfidy tactics which our civilization eradicated centuries ago


there are quite alot of incidents which are now historical fact, which would dispute your claim/statement.

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based on recent history, the more likely scenario is that the Israeli's will kill her ( such as the previous attack by Israel ).
there are currently an estimated 24 hostages still alive in Gaza, and 9623 hostages held by Israel (no one talks about these).
there are quite alot of incidents which are now historical fact, which would dispute your claim/statement.


I'd think with a single high profile celebrity who willingly approaches Gaza, the kidnap scenario is way more likely than being killed, though the latter is possible. I mean you can always get Jonestown'd like Leo Ryan did. Humans when regressed to full barbarism will kill 19 and take 1 as a slave or prisoner, and that's been true for tribes in ancient times and indian warriors in the americas and palestinians. Its the chaos of pillaging and plunder, when its inconvenient to take people alive. But that's true for marauding and warring, not so much for PR stunts gone awry. If a dumb liberal somehow actually puts themselves into Hamas control like a Hanoi Jane, they'd have reason to seize her as a hostage since she's valuable that way and easy to control.
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