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May 30 2025 01:33am
Hello, i remember on the old d2 there was a "limit" in the MF, after that there are not any additional apreciable bonus.
There is some explanation somwhere in the forum? I searched but did not find
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May 30 2025 01:47am
I believe it is called "Diminishing Returns" ... the higher % MF has a slower chance to find items from the Monster Drop table, Mlvl etc.

You can see an example with your character build and synergies and the % chance is reduced... thus a diminishing return.
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May 30 2025 05:06am
Sorry where i can see the example u mentioned?
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You gotta do quest bugged boss runs. It's essential. Bosses just slip out their gear. You will never regret going there. A tiny bit of hassle to get it set up, but that hassle is ten times over worth it. Take my word for it.
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N also, i think the diminishing returns bit is not valid. I went out of my way once to make an mf sorc as big much mf as possible once, i got like over 1000% mf and did hell mephisto runs. Utilized mf gear on switch and stuff. What i experienced was this: While i didn't always get so much more items, those uniques that did drop were of higher quality. I.e rarer stuff. So i think it is so that the more you use, the better. Just retain speed n flow of gameplay as much as possible. N survivability off for harscore, as i play.
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May 30 2025 11:50am
Sorry where i can see the example u mentioned?


Archived, so I could not find the chart explaining it better.

Basically the chart shows how the more mf % drops down once you reach 100%, basically 100% is a straight line, & when you add more to 200% it drops off etc.

N also, i think the diminishing returns bit is not valid. I went out of my way once to make an mf sorc as big much mf as possible once, i got like over 1000% mf and did hell mephisto runs. Utilized mf gear on switch and stuff. What i experienced was this: While i didn't always get so much more items, those uniques that did drop were of higher quality. I.e rarer stuff. So i think it is so that the more you use, the better. Just retain speed n flow of gameplay as much as possible. N survivability off for harscore, as i play.


I had an MF barb that has the highest amount of MF a character can have (horcker) in LoD around 1.09 with the introduction of 1.10 runewords ... was funny in 1.10 in Chaos runs being rushed and I am horcking bods... I ended up having 3 people following behind me to pick up drops... :lol: Now those were the days. A bit funny in Cow runs also in the day.
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Archived, so I could not find the chart explaining it better.

Basically the chart shows how the more mf % drops down once you reach 100%, basically 100% is a straight line, & when you add more to 200% it drops off etc.



I had an MF barb that has the highest amount of MF a character can have (horcker) in LoD around 1.09 with the introduction of 1.10 runewords ... was funny in 1.10 in Chaos runs being rushed and I am horcking bods... I ended up having 3 people following behind me to pick up drops... :lol: Now those were the days. A bit funny in Cow runs also in the day.


Sounds fun ^^ Crazy.
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May 30 2025 12:39pm
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You're very welcome my man. Let us know if you experiment and find something out. Or perhaps just map your next 300 runs and let us know the best finds or something. It's always great with feedback. First hand information is always the best, and sharing it so it becomes second hand experience, that's the best thing, then everyone learns. And that is the key to the internet. I don't like the new ai google thing. It is helpful, yes, but it's like, it's a sneak indoctrination thing to let the computer do the thinking for us. And i don't like that so much. Because then we stop thinking ourselves. We must actively learn to constantly communicate. I don't like gordon ramsay in the slightest, but there are things i do agree on, in the kitchen, they are supposed to constantly talk where they are in the process of cooking n tickets, this way, they all keep reminding each other where they are and where they're going. That way, it becomes idiotproof. If you talk, you'll survive. If you go silent, nobody knows anything, then you're sunk. Same thing with everything else in the world. Fear .. fear of being ridiculed, is the big killer, i know and i can see it every single where.... in the sauna, groups on facebook, on the bus, in the store, on this site, wherever. Someone opens up, tries to share first hand experience, then someone says like "Uhuhuu that's common knowledge, everyone knows that, you're just stupid to have had to spend that much time to figure it out ..." making the mperson feel stupid to share something. That is the big problem in the world... evil people using suppression techniques to dominate. And those people need a good slap round the ear.

But you! You share your results, of course only if you feel like it. That is equally important. Nothing is ever a forced thing, except survival .. or, that too, lol, but we all want to survive. That is why it is doubly and triple-y important to keep opening up. I don't like lemmy kilmister iether anymore, since i found out he went for underage girls, but he did say something i also a gree with, if you let them stop you, then they win. And that's something i too live by. And youo should, too.
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May 31 2025 12:53am
I totali agree woth you, but I don't know when I can be ready to prepare the pg of mf. At the moment i still trying to survive at hell with baba frenzy, i will start with only some charms with mf and then i will try to enhance mf, lowering power.
I will puntate all of you and thank you again for each suggest
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