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May 26 2025 12:37pm
I am going to say this again. It is protest shit.

It went from a well meaning protest and became BLM Hong Kong Style not only did these dumb ass protestors fuck shit up and now we can't even protest anymore.

They destroyed family lives, broke up friendships that were build over decades, beat up old people, throw Molotov Cocktails, loot shops and trash windows of local business whom they think do not agree with them ( Yes loot shops like BLM because I SAW IT WITH MY OWN EYES), when they don't agree with your point of view during a civil debate, they surround you and beat you to a pulp ( 10 versus 1) etc etc.

Yes... The protest is shit.

So what happened after ? CCP says thank you to NED and USAID because after all these shit, tons of Hong Kongers who doesn't really like CCP started to support the central government. Good Job.



Remember you and I discussed about Max Weber in regards to the Economies of Protestant North, Catholic South and the Orthodox East in Northern Europe, Catholic South and Orthodox Eastern Europe

Philippines are majority Catholics. Not that Catholics are bad at any sense of the word, but it seems they take a lot longer to move forward but they will get there eventually , they are just going through a dip for the past 200 years or so.
I think a lot of inventors and great people from EU are probably Catholics and let's not forget that during the height of European Colonization for it's initial part, Spain and Portugal are Catholics.

That being said Philippines do not have that culture that EU have, it might sound racist...something to do with their cultural stock.


It's true that the vast majority are Catholics, and even the ones who aren't Catholic generally still imbibe & exhibit the Catholic culture. My girlfriend's family is Protestant (Salvation Army associated) who are from the same region and highly associated with Marcos (who I believe was Protestant), who of course through his policy brought great advancement and wealth to the Phillipines. But her families culture I'd say isn't distinguishable at all from the typical Catholic culture, just that they go to different churches.

And I guess there's still alot of political division and little unity, Ilocos Norte is quite different from the south
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May 26 2025 12:45pm
It's true that the vast majority are Catholics, and even the ones who aren't Catholic generally still imbibe & exhibit the Catholic culture. My girlfriend's family is Protestant (Salvation Army associated) who are from the same region and highly associated with Marcos (who I believe was Protestant), who of course through his policy brought great advancement and wealth to the Phillipines. But her families culture I'd say isn't distinguishable at all from the typical Catholic culture, just that they go to different churches.

And I guess there's still alot of political division and little unity, Ilocos Norte is quite different from the south


Marcos is corrupted as fuck. Initially under Marcos rule things were going great. But he was too greedy.

The Tiger Economies of South East Asia and East Asia , Singapore / Taiwan / South Korea isn't even in the running.

It was Philippines / Indonesia / Hong Kong and Japan.

But as you see Philippines and Indonesia fucked things up under Marcos and Indonesia was actually slowly coming up during Suharto but after Suharto died things got into crap again with all the Islamic Nationalism and all that crap.
Philippines didn't do well after getting rid of Marcos either.

So it is a sad case.
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May 26 2025 12:52pm
Americans are doing much better than Europeans. Financially and also freedom-wise. What are you talking about?


Are you valueing the freedom of companies higher than personal freedom of the people? Companies have very little regulation in the US and are heavily regulated in the EU, where citizens are protected from a lot of things (think food additives, polluting ground water, data collection in the internet etc.).

Financially maybe? The US has very high gdp per capita and relatively low taxes, as a tradeoff you have the worst value healthcare system and laughable social security - am I really free if losing my job means losing my healthcare and getting sick resulting in me losing my home?

Also the whole super expensive higher education part so more of the population stays dumb and ignorant can't be great for a country in the long run.
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May 26 2025 01:11pm
Marcos is corrupted as fuck. Initially under Marcos rule things were going great. But he was too greedy.

The Tiger Economies of South East Asia and East Asia , Singapore / Taiwan / South Korea isn't even in the running.

It was Philippines / Indonesia / Hong Kong and Japan.

But as you see Philippines and Indonesia fucked things up under Marcos and Indonesia was actually slowly coming up during Suharto but after Suharto died things got into crap again with all the Islamic Nationalism and all that crap.
Philippines didn't do well after getting rid of Marcos either.

So it is a sad case.


I guess the problem of Marcos is that he (mostly his wife probably) felt that since he brought great prosperity essentially all on his own that he deserved a chunk of that wealth for himself and his own glory. Which in principle I suppose isn't that bad, but causes alot of justified public outrage. He did alot of great things with his wealth such as establishing Filipino communities in Hawaii.
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May 26 2025 01:55pm
I guess the problem of Marcos is that he (mostly his wife probably) felt that since he brought great prosperity essentially all on his own that he deserved a chunk of that wealth for himself and his own glory. Which in principle I suppose isn't that bad, but causes alot of justified public outrage. He did alot of great things with his wealth such as establishing Filipino communities in Hawaii.


You know it's bad when an entire wiki article is dedicated to your kleptocracy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overseas_landholdings_of_the_Marcos_family
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May 26 2025 02:13pm
The echo chamber that is this forum will deny anything from the OP
They get all their information from FOX Or INFOMAX which ironically enough IS most of the cabinet now days.
Most can’t cope with the fact the Trump is selling America away for the highest bidder
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May 26 2025 02:14pm
I cope down in the catacombs. Ladders don't slash themselves
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Self-loathing US citizens are a top 5 most pathetic type of human on the planet and most of the other 4 more pathetic than them are literally predators.
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May 26 2025 02:18pm
You know it's bad when an entire wiki article is dedicated to your kleptocracy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overseas_landholdings_of_the_Marcos_family


Not really, Wikipedia is communist propaganda and the communists have no love for Marcos

All the bad stuff about Marcos is literally fake news, other than him being fabulously wealthy

Using your wealth to fund foreign communities is just a smart investment to spread and cement your influence and legacy

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May 26 2025 02:23pm
Not really, Wikipedia is communist propaganda and the communists have no love for Marcos

All the bad stuff about Marcos is literally fake news, other than him being fabulously wealthy

Using your wealth to fund foreign communities is just a smart investment to spread and cement your influence and legacy


Buying multiple scryscrapers that your family personally owns with money that was given to your government =/= looking out for the best interests of your citizens
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