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May 26 2025 11:59am
That is rather sad.


It is from our standards, but it's ultimately up to them and their communities to decide to value higher education, if you think about it such an education is wholly unnecessary if they just want to keep living there and participating in their natural hunting culture
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May 26 2025 12:04pm
It is from our standards, but it's ultimately up to them and their communities to decide to value higher education, if you think about it such an education is wholly unnecessary if they just want to keep living there and participating in their natural hunting culture


You can't help it, it is also the culture, it will take a much longer time for them to catch up. You can definitely help a segment of their society but it is extremely challenging to change their mentality.

Put it this way, Philippines

1. English Educated
2. Democracy which is the exact replica of the American system.
3. Ex Spanish Colony / Ex American Colony
4. Vast Natural resources.
5. Next to Taiwan / Japan / South Korea
6. Part of Asean Nations
7. Great connection and Rapport with the United States.
8. 95% Christian Country

Why are they still the way they are ?
Have you wondered why ?

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Hongkong used to be quite enticing - but after China overreached and broke the 1 country 2 system agreement the exodus is real.
You don't want to send your kid to school to be indoctrinated.

HK was able to develop a distinct identity, so it is extremely understandable they want to have some say.

So to call it 'protest shit' is just bloody awful. Makes me angry to hear this level of ignorance and lack of insight - especially when you seem to know more of the world than just the Florida swamps.

You pay little taxes but EVERYTHING is expensive (except for food and transport). Housing? Cramped and among the most expensive world-wide.
Just pre school classes cost more than a grand a week and everything is crazy competitive.

So yeah, great if you are super rich - but the vast majority of people is not. So it's a struggle.

And that struggle will intensify crazily for everyone (who isn't a billionaire) - not just in the US


Britain let their lease expire in 1997. It's over and a done deal and somewhat silly to protest 20 years after the fact. Hong Kong is now part of China since 1997.

Blame your own anti-colonial nonsense. Or else admit that Hong Kong was better off as a British colony.

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May 26 2025 12:11pm
Fuck you kid. I am a Singaporean living in Hong Kong for the past 15 years.

I attended the 2014 Occupy Central protest and I amone of the first few who attended and march the 2019 Protest. I am part of the 2 Million March for the Extradition Bill.

I was even there during the Storming of the Legislative Council Complex. That is when I know it became shit because I was there.

You think you know more than me by saying it is ignorance or lack of insight.

On top of it I live next to Tin Hau Station, Victoria Gardens where all Major protest starts.

Don't talk shit.



Are there significant attempts to rectify these issues?


Prime example of misunderstanding :D

You do see that your choice of words is subject to misinterpretation, right? 'Protest shit' kinda has a bad connotations.

Our business used to do a lot of it in HK but now moved to SP. Our staff there was great and I totally feel for HK people.
That's why I was so allergic in my reaction.

SP is doing so many things really well. Like their housing program for instance. Giving people a fair chance of OWNING their flat is amazing.
Mixing the ethnicities in the housing complexes works rly well.

Education is THE best world-wide.

And all this can be translated into scientific data that can and should be applied to places everywhere.

And then you have an American administration that wants to get rid of the appartement of education.

Among countless other things.
Btw - I did find my answer to my initial question. How do Americans cope.
Denial. ;)
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You can't help it, it is also the culture, it will take a much longer time for them to catch up. You can definitely help a segment of their society but it is extremely challenging to change their mentality.

Put it this way, Philippines

1. English Educated
2. Democracy which is the exact replica of the American system.
3. Ex Spanish Colony / Ex American Colony
4. Vast Natural resources.
5. Next to Taiwan / Japan / South Korea
6. Part of Asean Nations
7. Great connection and Rapport with the United States.
8. 95% Christian Country

Why are they still the way they are ?
Have you wondered why ?


I agree, I mean they could change but only if they make the effort and want to, it's not anything that can be influenced by effete city slickers in Ottawa throwing money at it. The culture up there is ancient and highly constrained by geography, I'd say best we can do is help as much as is viable with the quality of their health and wellbeing, the best way of doing this IMO would be to crack down hard on drugs since they devastate native communities.

My sense on the Phillipines is that they maintain their great family oriented culture and are happy with it, and don't tend to have the desire or initiative to integrate into our Protestant Anglo work & production culture, while the ones who do simply immigrate here to Canada or the US.
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May 26 2025 12:18pm
Britain let their lease expire in 1997. It's over and a done deal and somewhat silly to protest 20 years after the fact. Hong Kong is now part of China since 1997.

Blame your own anti-colonial nonsense. Or else admit that Hong Kong was better off as a British colony.


Uhhh! The love I sense here.

Most hk people will say that (they prefer British rule).

But there are (international) contracts. If you sign one with our enterprise - and I tell you, sry - I know we said 50 years - but today I feel like 20 are enough.

But yeah. I guess for you it's whatever
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May 26 2025 12:21pm
Uhhh! The love I sense here.

Most hk people will say that (they prefer British rule).

But there are (international) contracts. If you sign one with our enterprise - and I tell you, sry - I know we said 50 years - but today I feel like 20 are enough.

But yeah. I guess for you it's whatever


The F you talking about. China honoured their agreement with Britain which expired in 1997. It was 99 years

You lefties really have lost your minds completely, your post is entirely incoherent

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May 26 2025 12:29pm
You should continue as hard as you can believing in what you said. Otherwise the cascades of dominos that start falling will hurt you and your comprehension machine :cry:
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May 26 2025 12:31pm
Prime example of misunderstanding :D

You do see that your choice of words is subject to misinterpretation, right? 'Protest shit' kinda has a bad connotations.

Our business used to do a lot of it in HK but now moved to SP. Our staff there was great and I totally feel for HK people.
That's why I was so allergic in my reaction.

SP is doing so many things really well. Like their housing program for instance. Giving people a fair chance of OWNING their flat is amazing.
Mixing the ethnicities in the housing complexes works rly well.

Education is THE best world-wide.

And all this can be translated into scientific data that can and should be applied to places everywhere.

And then you have an American administration that wants to get rid of the appartement of education.

Among countless other things.
Btw - I did find my answer to my initial question. How do Americans cope.
Denial. ;)


I am going to say this again. It is protest shit.

It went from a well meaning protest and became BLM Hong Kong Style not only did these dumb ass protestors fuck shit up and now we can't even protest anymore.

They destroyed family lives, broke up friendships that were build over decades, beat up old people, throw Molotov Cocktails, loot shops and trash windows of local business whom they think do not agree with them ( Yes loot shops like BLM because I SAW IT WITH MY OWN EYES), when they don't agree with your point of view during a civil debate, they surround you and beat you to a pulp ( 10 versus 1) etc etc.

Yes... The protest is shit.

So what happened after ? CCP says thank you to NED and USAID because after all these shit, tons of Hong Kongers who doesn't really like CCP started to support the central government. Good Job.

I agree, I mean they could change but only if they make the effort and want to, it's not anything that can be influenced by effete city slickers in Ottawa throwing money at it. The culture up there is ancient and highly constrained by geography, I'd say best we can do is help as much as is viable with the quality of their health and wellbeing, the best way of doing this IMO would be to crack down hard on drugs since they devastate native communities.

My sense on the Phillipines is that they maintain their great family oriented culture and are happy with it, and don't tend to have the desire or initiative to integrate into our Protestant Anglo work & production culture, while the ones who do simply immigrate here to Canada or the US.


Remember you and I discussed about Max Weber in regards to the Economies of Europe aka. Protestant North, Catholic South and the Orthodox East.

Philippines are majority Catholics. Not that Catholics are bad at any sense of the word, but it seems they take a lot longer to move forward but they will get there eventually , they are just going through a dip for the past 200 years or so.
I think a lot of inventors and great people from EU are probably Catholics and let's not forget that during the height of European Colonization for it's initial part, Spain and Portugal are Catholics.

That being said Philippines do not have that culture that EU have, it might sound racist...something to do with their cultural stock.

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You should continue as hard as you can believing in what you said. Otherwise the cascades of dominos that start falling will hurt you and your comprehension machine :cry:


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