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May 23 2025 02:52pm
You mean an injured Embiid, right?

Because healthy prime Embiid was Jokic's DADDY. Best scorer in the league by a mile, and DPOY caliber defensive anchor who could turn any team into a top defensive team by himself. Jokic can't even make an impact on one half of the floor he's a sloth defensively and gets targeted.

There's a reason Embiid absolutely OWNS Jokic in h2h matchups too. 6-2 all-time not even counting the Olympics rofl. But try and tell us home court advantage is the reason Embiid drops 40+ every time he plays Jokic ๐Ÿ˜‚

Availability is the best ability, and for that Jokic has had a better career but we alllll know Embiid when healthy was the best player in the game.


Embid ssj 7 < jokic

But yea sga shits on both em
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May 23 2025 02:53pm
But why is a thread about SGA being derailed into an Embiid thread .


on top of that Embiids issue has never been skill talent or ability, it's health , a healthy Embiid is a pipe dream and always has been ( I told Sean this when they drafted him ) but if you look at his MVP season he was absolutely dominant.
The reason Jokic > Embiid is because he's healthier , and a better teammate - not because he's on another talent level- there are some things Jokic does better and some Embiid does better, but they are both 2 of the most talented big men to ever play the game , Embiid is just made of glass and has a soft as baby shit mentality


DM only cares about SGA or OKC winning awards as some weird proof that Jokic isnโ€™t the best player in the NBA by a long shot. Jokic > SGA and Giannis easily because he totally warps the offensive end like Curry just in different ways

He knows Embiid only got that MVP as a pity award and then old boy had to pretend he was a Yankee Doodle boy just to squeak a medal out of it

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May 23 2025 03:03pm
DM only cares about SGA or OKC winning awards as some weird proof that Jokic isnโ€™t the best player in the NBA by a long shot. Jokic > SGA and Giannis easily because he totally warps the offensive end like Curry just in different ways

He knows Embiid only got that MVP as a pity award and then old boy had to pretend he was a Yankee Doodle boy just to squeak a medal out of it


Calling Embiid's MVP a pity award while he put up Wilt type of numbers, leading the league in scoring on great efficiency, and playing elite dominant defense anchoring a top 3 defensive team in the league. That's wild stuff ๐Ÿ˜‚


33/11/4 on 66% TS with DPOY caliber defense. "Pity award"

Embiid should have more than one MVP if we wanna talk about it. Everyone knows Jokic stole one from him in 2022.
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May 23 2025 03:21pm
Calling Embiid's MVP a pity award while he put up Wilt type of numbers, leading the league in scoring on great efficiency, and playing elite dominant defense anchoring a top 3 defensive team in the league. That's wild stuff ๐Ÿ˜‚


33/11/4 on 66% TS with DPOY caliber defense. "Pity award"

Embiid should have more than one MVP if we wanna talk about it. Everyone knows Jokic stole one from him in 2022.


In five second-round series (29 games), Embiid averages 23.8 points per game on 43/29/82 shooting

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May 23 2025 03:27pm
In five second-round series (29 games), Embiid averages 23.8 points per game on 43/29/82 shooting

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Reg season MVP award has nothingggggg to do with the playoffs.....

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May 23 2025 03:38pm
Reg season MVP award has nothingggggg to do with the playoffs.....


the narrative around winning a 2nd or 3rd MVP has ALWAYS factored in playoff success, to which Embiid has none. only MVP to never advance past the 2nd rd and the best team he ever beat was the 48 win Raps
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May 23 2025 03:39pm
Reg season MVP award has nothingggggg to do with the playoffs.....


how many rings does embiid have?
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May 23 2025 04:26pm
how many rings does embiid have?


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May 23 2025 05:01pm
how many rings does embiid have?


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May 23 2025 08:24pm
the narrative around winning a 2nd or 3rd MVP has ALWAYS factored in playoff success, to which Embiid has none. only MVP to never advance past the 2nd rd and the best team he ever beat was the 48 win Raps


In fairness that 76ers team that lost to Toronto in 2019 played the Raptors a hell of a lot harder than the Bucks did in the third round or the Warriors in the finals

I enjoy ragging on the 76ers and Embiid for their lack of playoff success as much as the next guy- but Giannis won the MVP that year and also got exposed by the Raptors .


The Raptors were outscored by 90 points over the course of the series with Embiid on the court in spite of how awful his shooting was ( and it was awful )
The Bucks only outscored the Raptors by 10 points over the series with Giannis on the court ( in spite of the fact that the entire series was only in favor of Toronto by 6 points )

Once the Raps solved him in game 3 it was over.


So yeah feel free to expose Embiid ---- but Giannis didn't deserve his awards and has been exposed repeatedly as a one dimensional player who's weaknesses are easily exposed, a regular season juggernaut who runs the court and stats pads and chokes in the playoffs.

First round exit
First round exit
First round exit
Second Round Exit
NBA Championship where they got to play - the heat who's best player was Goran Dragic because Jimmy Buckets played through a back injury - then the nets who it took them 7 games to beat even with Harden and Irving Injured, the Atlanta Hawks and then then the Suns ( Literally got handed the fucking championship on a platter during weird covid nonsense )
Second Round Exit
Conference Finals Exit
First Round Exit
First Round Exit
DIDNT MAKE THE PLAYOFFS
First Round Exit
DIDNT MAKE THE PLAYOFFS





Giannis has been exposed as a regular season merchant, dude can't shoot 3's, can't shoot fts, can't shoot mid range jump shots ( sure we'll pray this season was an outlier - in the face of his entire careers worth of work im willing to not jump the gun on a few months of mid range success this season )

And even this season , the dude was a net negative in the first round of the playoffs culminated by an elimination game they lost by 1 point in which Giannis was -18 on the court for ....went 8-15 from the ft line and had 5 turnovers with 1 assist.

Like sure he's a monster around the rim, great -----and other than the worlds luckiest run in the bubble, he's been just as fucking unsuccessful as Embiid, Embiid can't do it because his body is made of glass, Giannis can't because his fucking game is made out of glass
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