Taking a trip and looking at the schools especially in the Rust belt would have given anyone a good idea. :lol:
Speaking from engineering side
Many of the RUST belt schools have ABET accreditation, lower tuition, less discrimination in enrollment. Bonus is the faculty usually has more bandwidth for student time than larger institutions with research focus. Honestly, the better engineers typically come from these types of schools. The book smart ones from primary state and big name private schools often can't cut it in real world.
The odd dynamic was the flood of people in college trying to pay to win. And college and lower education pushing this for profits. This watered down college for most disciplines and added more dumbasses into lecture halls and curving of grades (yes some college wanna be professors do this). Evidence was 80s era oscilloscopes in the college labs while the public facing library computer lab had state of the art machines to lure kids in.
This post was edited by RedFromWinter on May 23 2025 05:50am